Cowlip's intentions about Brian and Justin

[nightvision55.livejournal.com]

Hi, this is the first time I've posted here so please forgive any mistakes ...

I was just wondering; in the UK original, the focus of the series was the Brian/Michael relationship, and they were the ones who ended up together. So, did Cowlip originally intend that in the US version, and did they just go with the Brian/Justin pairing because they realised how hot the chemistry between Gale and Randy was?

Does anybody know?

Comments

[bigdogz09.livejournal.com]

I don't know their original intend, but fans were so horrified by the ending that riots broke out all over the world... okay, maybe the riots didn't happen. ;)

BUT, there was an interview with Cowlip that was done last year (maybe 2 years ago). The producers said that they don't know why people thought that B/J weren't going to continue seeing each other. It was heavily implied in the interview that B/J were an unique, special couple and could possibly go the distance. Or so it seemed, to most that read the interview. I can't remember if they definitely said 'yes' that they would end up together or not.

A link to the interview was here on this website, but I can't who the interviewer was.

Manybe there's a link or someone's may remember who did the interview.

All the best.

[bigdogz09.livejournal.com]

I just read the 2006 interview and I'm glad that Cowlip backpeddled in the 2010 interview. And well they should! They should kiss my incredibly, large ass and beg for forgiveness.

That's right boys, say you're sorry and bend over. Jackasses...

Time for merlot.

[ryosato.livejournal.com]

It's never been stated, but it makes sense that from season 2 and on it's far more Brian/Justin, because the writers in the original season were the same as the UK version. But due to Canada's laws on employing a certain percentage of Canadian people if you're working up there (or something, I don't know the details lol) they had to fire most of them and get a totally new writing group from Canada. From there, they decided to continue to change things and move on in a new direction.

Although, I'd say they knew there were people that liked both, because they never COMPLETELY deny the Brian/Michael thing. I mean, even in the last season, which IMO was weird all around. XD

[masterglory.livejournal.com]

I guess Qaf has began as a Brian/michael(ewwwwww and bleah) story.

It shows on the pilot, it shows about C/L declaration at the times that they recognize themselves each one in both characters ( I'd like to know which one of them was Michael,:P)

But even on the pilot (especially on it) Gale/Randy♥ chemistry was too big, too perfect, too deep and beautiful to deny it, so I guess they have had to gave up their first (pathetic) project.

To totally try to reverse this thing at the end, I mean 513 was only about Brian and Michael, a pretty sad pathetic attempt to come back to the very first minutes of the pilot, or "how to ruin a masterpiece part 1,2,3,4...etc.":(((((((( to not forget that at the end Michael is happy and fullfilled and Brian is punished taking him away his son and his love:(

The infamous "final scene" the one with "the new blonde trick under the lampost"...I've read that C/L used to have a "test group" of people to show the scenes before to be on air, and I've read that the test group pretty much said "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" to that.
And this shows us how much C/L both loved and hated Qaf, their own creature (it happens, yeah) because it would be the final coup de grace.

About Michael character and Hal Sparks both it would be pretty and polite for me to be silent *grin*, I guess both the actor and the character can be good to those who doesn't love like me Brian and Justin, Randy and Gale.
Duh, everybody is entitled to their tastes and opinions;)

[heretic-x.livejournal.com]

I understand the confusion(this is not really directed towards anyone who has posted), however...B/J was the relationship Cowlip exploited to keep us watching QAF and I bought it hook, line and sinker. So I don't give a rat's behind what they said or say now about the ending or what their intentions were. ;)
ITA that Brian and Michael wasn't selling and the chemistry of Gale and Randy was undeniable. In the end, the writers did explain that Brikey love was platonic and wasn't going to be romantic love, (my aside: unless maybe it became geriatric love with impotence thrown in.) Still pisses me off the romance novel shit at the end of 5 which did seem to poke fun(and fake off) at the female fans.

[sodoesrachael.livejournal.com]

My two cents!

I've always felt like the Brian/Michael relationship could never have worked because Michael never 'pushed' Brian. For most of the show, he was the one always just saying "that's who he is" and never expecting anything more. Justin, however, was different. Even though during the infamous 'reunification' he told Brian he knew what to expect, he didn't stop pushing, he just changed his tactics a bit. ;) Justin didn't take Brian's shit as much as other members of the 'family' did, so in that aspect he was perfect for Brian. He hadn't been around during Brian's past, and though he knew the basics, he didn't let that define who Brian was as a person, which is exactly what someone in that situation needs. Justin expected more out of Brian, and though he (Brian) never *directly* stepped up and always acted like he didn't give a shit, he did. Throughout life people are constantly evolving, and Brian needed to be with someone who would let that happen, even encourage it, since he was so emotionally stunted. Justin could give him that, while Michael could not. Which is why, for me, B/J is the perfect pairing and B/M could never work.

Did that make any sense whatsoever? I hope it did. ;)

[gaedhal.livejournal.com]

It's important to say that the ending of QAF-UK was
also controversial with British fans and critics.

Davies did not want to do the second series and many
believe that he used it as a fuck you to the powers
that be (and the critics, and perhaps even the fans --
see his comments on "Torchwood" especially for his
attitude to fans). The "sci-fi/fantasy" ending was
read by many viewers as a fake-out and not necessarily
Stuart and Vince ending up together -- but more of
a "Thelma and Louise" or "Butch and Sundance" going
out with guns blazing ending. If you've seen that last
ep you'll know what I mean -- it's completely unrealistic
and more like a dream.

[bilby10.livejournal.com]

I'd love to know what CowLip's exact intentions were too. I've never read an interview where this is explicitly stated. I suspect their main intention was to re-tell the UK QAF stories in their own way, and include a few of their own (which I think they did very well in S1).

I don't know if they intended for Brian and Justin to take off the way they did. Maybe they did. In the QAF version, Nathan idiolises Stuart rather than falls in love with him. Eventually he takes over from Stuart as the king of "Liberty Ave". In S101 Justin is much softer. I don't ever get the sense that he has any intention of one day taking over the reigns from Brian. Justin sees Brian's faults from the get go, but falls in love with him anyway. IDK - I'm thinking that it maybe was intentional on CowLip's part. I also remember their comments about being careful to select a Brian and Justin that would complement one another.

The other thing I'd love to know is was Michael really meant to be the main character, or was it always meant to be Brian and Michael? To me Brian is the main character, and it kind of annoyed me, particularly in the later seasons, that CowLip always ensured that Michael had as much screen time as Brian. I would much preferred to have seen more of the other characters (Justin, for starters). I liked Michael, but he wasn't compelling enough to have had so much of the spotlight.

I suspect Hal was a yes man, and that probably paid off for him, much more than Randy's tactic of expressing his true opinions. A shame, but that is the way of the world. Yes men and women undeservedly tend to go further.