[identity profile] nightvision55.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] getithere
Hi, this is the first time I've posted here so please forgive any mistakes ...

I was just wondering; in the UK original, the focus of the series was the Brian/Michael relationship, and they were the ones who ended up together. So, did Cowlip originally intend that in the US version, and did they just go with the Brian/Justin pairing because they realised how hot the chemistry between Gale and Randy was?

Does anybody know?

Re: anything but Hal

Date: 2011-06-18 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasilikii.livejournal.com
I didn't say the simon is a cunt or off broadway thing... the writers did, they were direct quotes from s5!

You totally misconstrued things...I adore Randy and am counting down days till I see Tommy.

I said multiple times that Hal was an ass, but fans tend to make up bad shit he said about Gale, cause the actual proof we have, is pretty minimal...and if someone has more, link it.

Hal was never a problem on set though, as the person I responded to said. The only tension was the Randy melee with the producers.

You asked for proof and you got it....2 producers talking about Randy causing problems. You do not have to agree with it or like it, neither do I, but its fact that Randy pissed off the producers and that was what you asked for. You really seem to be comingling things. The Postoff transcript pissed off fans in regard to what he said about b/j, not for what he said about Randy pissing off Cowlip, et al, and how the affected the show.

You are being defensive for no reason, like I said, I am not bashing Randy, I LOVE him, but the producers did NOT. You asked for non Hal proof of that and you got it.

Re: anything but Hal

Date: 2011-06-18 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] masterglory.livejournal.com
Oh sorry I was wrong *hides*, I haven't understood that the "Simon is a cunt and on off Broadway" thing was not yours but said by the producers, excuse me, for real.

Blame this to my bad comrehension of your language, most of the times I miss something in grammar and the whole meaning change for me making me seems like a moron:(

And I'm happy and a little bit envious (but in a good way) that you're going to see Randy in "Tommy"....awwwww, iIhope you will do a full report, forgive me once again^^

Re: anything but Hal

Date: 2011-06-19 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Wow...I missed a lot! But seriously, guys, thanks for not getting into a HUGE fight and keeping things civil, even in disagreement.

I'd like to say for the record that Simon Dumenco is a jerk. Why? Simple. You don't talk shit about the people paying your boyfriend.

As far as Randy goes, I can understand the issues he had, like saying that he'd never have had Justin and Brian get back together (S3), but I think he was projecting. Yeah, in real life, I don't think anyone would go back to an emotionally stunted partner. Sometimes words are important. Actions, of course, but words...gotta use those. And we all know that Brian wouldn't if he could get away with it. Still, from what I understood, C/L had a very set "bible" that they were working with, and they intended to tell that story and that story only. Good writers listen to their stars and their fans, to a point. Hell, Supernatural loves messing with their fans - they did a whole episode casting Sam and Dean as Jared and Jensen, and did one in a previous season where they had the boys show up at an SPN comm. That's fan synergy, and it worked for them.

As far as C/L being pissed off with their fanbase...obviously they weren't paying attention to the AfterElton/AfterEllen polls, because gay men were NOT happy with the show.

Hal...I don't like him, but I did like Michael, for the most part. I thought he did a good job for the most part. I don't hate him nearly as much as I did/do Chris Potter (Dr David).

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