Sad, depressing fics including sex

[lumcheng.livejournal.com]

Edit 2: Okay, lol, funny discussion but still no recs (which I didn't know) ._. Slip Away can't be the only one, or? ;_;
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Yeah, the title says it all, I think, lol
I'm in the mood for this right now, so...
Can someone rec me some well-written really, sad, depressing B/J fics which also include lemonSEX? (There's nothing better than despair!sex, lol)
Something like 'Slip away' by Branwen777.
I checked the 'down the well' tags/memories, but I couldn't figure out which of these fics were really depressing in general AND had the dirty stuff as well ^^;

Edit: Sorry ^^; Bidyke is right - lemon means graphic sex, lol. Didn't know it's only common in germany for sex in all kind of fics. We have lemon for more graphic sex and lime for implied sex. There's even something in between, but I won't go that deep into explanations now, lol

Comments

[bidyke73.livejournal.com]

No, it seems to be common in English, too:

"Lemon and Lime
Main article: lemon (anime)
See also: lime (anime)
Explicit sex stories in general, especially in anime fan fiction, are known as lemon, lemony-goodness, and lemonade, a term which comes from a Japanese slang term meaning "sexy" that itself derives from an early pornographic cartoon series called Cream Lemon. The term lime denotes a story that has sexual themes but is not necessarily explicit. "Lemon" stories without much plot other than sex are also referred to as smutfics[citation needed] or as PWPs ("Porn Without Plot" or "Plot? What Plot?").

These terms are also sometimes used now to describe original amateur fiction that is published online."
(quoted from Wikipedia)

[gundamnook.livejournal.com]

Yes, lemon has been a term for sex in Anime fandoms and have been around for a long time. Since I've come from (and currently still active in) Anime fandoms I knew what she was talking about. But yes this term is very uncommon in TV show & movie fandoms.

[flamencanyc.livejournal.com]

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Sounds like it's pretty specific to the anime world. I've certainly never heard it used by anyone in any of the fandoms I've been involved in or by friends involved in other non-anime fandoms over the years.

However, it seems to me if you can read about sex why not just type/say the word without requiring such a euphemism? It's not like the word is shorter and easier to type or anything.

[lumcheng.livejournal.com]

without requiring such a euphemism? It's not like the word is shorter and easier to type or anything.

lolol, I know and you're so right about this, but old habits die slow.
since I started reading fics at the age of 15, I'm used to these terms (and that wasn't only anime back then, also movies and books)

when I became active here, it was weird for me at first to refer to Brian/Justin, when I read BJ, because that stands for blowjob, lolol

[flamencanyc.livejournal.com]

:)
Yup, BJ is blowjob. B/J is Brian/Justin.

[wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com]

Lol, I tend to say "BJ" to mean Brian and Justin! 'Cause then it's like... they're closer together... than if I say "B/J"...

*iz dork*

Also 'cause fanfiction.net takes all the little symbol punctuation out of your summaries, so I'd type "B/J" and it would become "BJ" anyway, so...

I guess I'd say "a bj" for blow job, lol.

Btw, lumcheng hon, I remember you saying "lemon" to me the first time and being like ???? but figuring it out and figuring I was just out of the loop! :-b

[lumcheng.livejournal.com]

lol @ closer - you're srzly adorkable ;)

Oh shit... see? old, bad habits... I just can't get rid of it. maybe it's also because my friend and I tend to talk about fics in public a lot and to avoid weird stares from the people, we're happy with using terms like 'lemon' and 'bj' instead of sex and blowjob, lol ^^;

[vlredreign.livejournal.com]

No, it's not. You'll find the terms "lemon" and "lime" in slash fiction. Almost every archive out there that caters to slash use those terms, as well as "yaoi" and "hentai", geared more towards the anime fics. There's also chan, which you may know. If not, that's fic with underaged characters.

I wish I'd seen this earlier, it would have been funny jumping in going, "Hey, we only use those terms for non-canon slash!fic!" lol

[flamencanyc.livejournal.com]

Hmm. I've never seen or heard of them used in the QaF, DW/TW, Star Trek, Oz, or AI fandoms, that's for sure. Slash or no.

So let me rephrase, it sounds like they're predominantly used in the anime and other related fandoms (i.e. those of Japanese origin such as anime, hentai, yaoi, chan, etc.), but I guess they may also be used in some other non-Japanese origin slash fandoms that I'm not familiar with.

Interesting either way. Though I still don't get why anyone would bother using such odd euphemisms rather than just saying sex or porn or using standard ratings. But that's okay, I don't need to get it. Fact is, they do.

[vlredreign.livejournal.com]

I remember the first time I saw those types of warnings; it was when I was brand new to the fanfiction thing...way back in 2002. lol Those warnings had me all kinds of confused! I was all, "Lemon? WTF is that??"

Those warnings abound at large multi-fandom archives, such as ff.net, aff.net, and several Harry Potter archives as well. I haven't seen any at archives that host QAF fic, that I recall, anyway. And oddly enough, I don't recall seeing that at the Smallville archive sites, either, which would be mostly slash.

[sodoesrachael.livejournal.com]

It's VERY common in the Harry Potter fandom as well, so not just anime, ;)

On sites such as fanfiction.net, the summary to every story has to be appropriate for all ages. Saying "this story has lemon" is better than "this is porn." :P

[flamencanyc.livejournal.com]

Yes, I know. That's why I said 'predominantly' not 'exclusively'.

Seems to me that if it means the same thing, and everyone in that fandom knows it (or finds out the first time they click on something so labeled), it is no "better" than saying porn. Just sillier. :) The summary needn't include any of that anyway; that's what ratings are for.

Anyway, obviously those that use it should do what they want. And I'll thank my lucky stars that it hasn't come into usage in QaF fic. As Brain and Justy know, we have enough silly problems already. ;)