crazy-ethan fic
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getithere...I wonder if anyone remembers this story, and if it can still be found anywhere. I read it a couple of years ago on Bjfic.net, but I can’t find it now.
Edit: A link to where you can find this story is in the comments. Thanks for the help.
I think the title is “Something Only We Know.” It is a slight AU where the bashing didn’t happen. But Justin still runs off with Ethan at some point. They go to New York, but Ethan ends up being an abusive wacko. When Justin tries to leave him, Ethan locks Justin up in his apartment and keeps him there for five years while he himself becomes a big success in the music world.
He gives everyone some story about Justin running off to Europe, and nobody knows what really happened to Justin until something causes Brian to start looking for him, and he saves Justin from Ethan. I remember there was a sequel as well.
Edit: A link to where you can find this story is in the comments. Thanks for the help.
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Date: 2008-05-20 02:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 08:27 am (UTC)I have the story saved and can send it to you. Just give me your email adress.
ronjamaus
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Date: 2008-05-20 12:48 pm (UTC)samcdermott65@gmail.com
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Date: 2008-05-20 01:00 pm (UTC)alessia248@libero.it
Thanks a lot
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Date: 2008-05-20 03:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 04:22 pm (UTC)Email is
spike7451@primusonline.com.au
Thanks.
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Date: 2008-05-20 05:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 05:41 pm (UTC)could you please upload it here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/5965761/f5a6d0eb/qaf_fic.html so that everyone interested can download it? :D
pleasepleaseplease... I think I should advertise this thing more.
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Date: 2008-05-20 06:49 pm (UTC)I just uploaded the story. I knew there was this site where you could upload lost QAF stories but couldn't remember where to find it.
ronjamaus
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Date: 2008-05-20 07:10 pm (UTC)to fandom, cheers!
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Date: 2008-05-20 10:23 pm (UTC)lauryw@aol.com
thanks
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Date: 2008-07-06 12:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 06:30 am (UTC)Can you send me the story about ethan being an abusive wacko and locks justin in his apartment for like 5 years please.
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Date: 2009-07-02 06:40 pm (UTC)Could you send the stories to me too please?
Date: 2009-08-19 01:18 pm (UTC)Re: Could you send the stories to me too please?
Date: 2009-08-19 07:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 11:36 am (UTC)transcriber@comcast.net
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Date: 2008-05-20 01:30 pm (UTC)ken_thompkins@yahoo.com
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Date: 2008-05-20 02:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 03:02 pm (UTC)barbarajohnson2274@msn.com
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Date: 2008-05-20 04:25 pm (UTC)I would love to read that story. Thank you!
aamodt59@hotmail.com
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Date: 2008-05-20 04:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 05:05 pm (UTC)My e-mail adress is mirimacelva@gmx.de
Thanks in advance.
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Date: 2008-05-20 05:34 pm (UTC)Thanks a lot
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Date: 2008-05-20 05:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 05:35 pm (UTC)If it's not too much trouble could you send it to me as well?
vangaasbeek@yahoo.com Thank you!
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Date: 2008-05-20 05:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 06:51 pm (UTC)I just uploaded the story here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/5965761/f5a6d0eb/qaf_fic.html
Have fun with it.
ronjamaus
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Date: 2008-05-20 07:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 07:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-21 12:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-20 10:57 pm (UTC)My enmail is maria.santos.f@gmail.com
Thanks
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Date: 2008-05-21 05:09 am (UTC)that the author REMOVED her stories for a reason? Or that
uploading them somewhere else without her express permission
is a violation of her rights as a writer? It's one thing
to circulate removed stories privately, although personally
I wouldn't do it if I knew the writer had specifically
left the fandom and taken down her work, but to openly hawk
them on a public site it really not kosher.
I know everyone will ignore this, but as a writer I say it
isn't right.
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Date: 2008-05-21 10:14 am (UTC)I read your other comment maybe it's better with a mail.
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Date: 2008-05-22 06:21 pm (UTC)I know many people consider this a sticky business, but uploading fic is exactly the same as sending it by mail to anyone who asks, only more convenient. And if circulating these fics by email is acceptable, I don't feel any guilt for making it easier and more *cough* democratic. Although yes, making a separate post announcing this was a bit too eager of me.
Do you think deadfic@LJ should be closed too?
I respect all authors rights and even most expectations, but you can't possibly think one can post something on the internet and then have it removed completely. It's just not possible, if someone wants to get it, he will, it's always out there somewhere, the question is just how much time (or money) they'll have to spend looking for it. It's the obvious risk of publishing anything - once you do it, it's done. Besides, it's not like anyone draws any profit out of this, we're just reading and sharing.
I think the most we can do if someone doesn't want to be associated with their previous works is to not credit him/her, or write some disclaimer.
p.s. sorry for 273645 edits, didn't mean to spam you, I swear!
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Date: 2008-05-23 04:00 am (UTC)LJ, based on what's going on here.
The writer specifically removed her fics. Her beta
posted that information in my LJ. If she no longer
wanted them to be available is it up to this forum
to then offer them? We don't know why she deleted
them, but she obviously had cause.
If a fic was offered only in a locked LJ and you got
it there, would you then unload it here for everyone?
Would you want posts from your own locked LJ to be
posted in an open forum after you had specifically
locked them or reserved them only for a certain
readership?
There are reasons writers lock their journals. There
are also reasons why they delete them or remove fics.
Who are we to second guess them? Those reasons may
well be personal -- or professional.
I have no problem with a group linking to other open
LJ's or archive forums such as BJfic.net or Across
the Pond or Midnight Whispers. So do you feel free to
take fics from those sites and repost them in your
own forum? Or archive them on your own site without
permission of the author or the site? In other words,
does anything go? Or do we practice the common courtesy
for others we would want used for us?
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Date: 2008-05-23 04:33 pm (UTC)posted that information in my LJ.
Removing fics doesn't automatically equal 'cease distribution'. Maybe she just doesn't want the fics connected to her name and/or her homepage? How do you or I know?
If a fic was offered only in a locked LJ and you got
it there, would you then unload it here for everyone?
No, I never did that and in my post I specifically asked to not upload fics that are locked and whose authors are around to decide who can and can't read them. But some of the fics used to be on f-locked journals that are no longer maintained, their owner just disappeared, but the fics are still there. Such as was the case with smittenkitten's stories, who explicably stated that they were only locked from minors. That shared folder is for fics that are impossible to get otherwise, not to walk around some arbitrary restrictions.
There are reasons writers lock their journals. There
are also reasons why they delete them or remove fics.
Who are we to second guess them? Those reasons may
well be personal -- or professional.
as I said, if the author doesn't want to be associated with their fics, we can post them uncredited. If we know they want to change characters' names and publish the story, well, whatever I think about such practice, I should respect that wish. The problem is, they posted their work as free and it's available. If they suddenly decide they want to gain profit out of it, they can't just undo posting it. The only thing they can count on is that people liked and respected their work enough to buy it when it's published, but the fic? It's free, you made it free yourself, how about being an adult about your actions? I know it's harsh, but so is life. As for other reasons authors might have to un-publish (provided they didn't make them clear), how are we supposed to know them? You think they don't want their stories to be read, I'd sooner think they just don't want to be known as the author.
So do you feel free to
take fics from those sites and repost them in your
own forum? Or archive them on your own site without
permission of the author or the site? In other words,
does anything go?
Those are rhetorical questions, right? Because if they're not, the answer is: you're kidding, right? In the post that, I suppose, caught your attention (f-locked, mind you, so you don't have to worry about the link being google-able unless someone shared it publicly) I stated clearly 'terms of use' and they didn't go beyond what already seemed acceptable here. So, NO! no reposting against the author's will or stealing content from readily available sites.
And that shared folder isn't my site, I have no ability to gain any profit or glory out of it. It's just a way of optimizing the process of sharing by mail, nothing more.
I'm sorry If I sound rude (I always do, and English isn't even my first language, so I have a lil' less control here), but I just can't agree with some of your points, they're slightly irrational to me, even if I understand where you're coming from. I'm ready to restrict access to the folder if that turns out to be necessary. But for now I'm just going to stand my ground.
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Date: 2008-08-31 12:36 pm (UTC)Thaks!