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I just finished Fifty Shades of Grey book 1. I was wondering if there are any fics along the lines of Shades for my boys Brian and Justin. If so please share.

Thanks in advance!!!


**Some recs inside**

Date: 2012-06-02 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinmonsterer.livejournal.com
I wanted to say: I sure fucking hope not!

But then I remembered what fandom I'm in and that I'd be up for a big disappointment. Check the bdsm tag, I'm certain people have been writing this kind of fic since the beginning of internet. 50 shades isn't even much different from every generic bdsm fic.
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Date: 2012-06-02 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinmonsterer.livejournal.com
OK, I don't want to be uselessly rude, I apologize for my outburst, I just react allergically to 50 shades. My rec is: it's not allowed to request fics by this author in this comm, but if you're willing to spend a few bucks, check out Mask by Jan Irving (http://www.dreamspinnerpress.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=1177). It's BDSM, it's M/M and it used to be a Brian/Justin fanfic. I only read one or two chapters of the original fic, but it is hot and Jan is a good erotica writer who also knows how to write plot, which cannot be said about EL James. If you liked the relationship dynamics in 50 Shades, I think you might like Mask.

Date: 2012-06-02 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com
*pets* S'okay, I facepalmed pretty hard, myself.

Good rec. I have mixed feeling about Jan, but I was certainly sucked into many a fic of hers once upon a time :)

Date: 2012-06-02 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
I saw this and wanted to go to my local bookstore and find every copy of this POS and set it on fire. Ironically, Adam Lambert did a reading of this on the radio today...*headdesk* We won't even go into how I felt about this...check my Twitter feed from yesterday, I went off there. lol

There is so much good BDSM D/s out there, why read this crap? Or better still, why subject B/J to it??

Sorry, sorry...I just lose my shit whenever this story is mentioned. I think of all the good writers that crossed over from fandoms, and they don't get nearly the praise or notice that they should, based on the genre they write for. But hey, take a POS het fanfic and turn it into a POS original fic...and have it optioned for a fucking movie.

FML

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Date: 2012-06-02 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com
Here's that BDSM tag (http://getithere.livejournal.com/tag/kink%3A%20bdsm) for you ('cause not everyone knows to look under "kink").

Date: 2012-06-02 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maimee-angel.livejournal.com
Is it BDSM? BDSM fic that I remember exactly is 'You Bet Your Ass' by Vamphile.
I've read Noir & Apple from Jan Irving too before she locked all her fics.
Oh also Want from crazyevildru http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=crazyevildru&keyword=Want&filter=all but to read, you have to friend her.
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Date: 2012-06-02 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysid.livejournal.com
I was recently at a party with old college friends. One man asked, "Have you read Fifty Shades of Grey like every other housewife in America?"

I answered, "No, I have better porn."

I figured Brian/Justin was better than Edward/Bella (or their whatever they've been renamed to make the book original fic). He did goggle a bit at my reply.
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Date: 2012-06-02 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com
I answered, "No, I have better porn."

*applauding you forever*

Date: 2012-06-02 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mander3-swish.livejournal.com
"No, I have better porn." Fuck yeah! ;D
and now that little exchange makes me think of Justin at Ethan's friends' party! ;)

Date: 2012-06-11 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girloftheburbs.livejournal.com
LMFAO, thank you. :D

Date: 2012-06-02 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bidyke73.livejournal.com
I read it because I was curious especially because of the "former fan fiction" aspects. It wasn't all bad - just badly written *coughs*. Which means that it still sucks you in. Obviously. People may say that they don't like it, but they still buy it, don't they? For me, it's a good example for "guilty pleasures".

I do agree that we have way better porn here in our fandom, but there are AUs about "Pretty Woman" and other stuff that is just as bad and I still read it, so why not "50 shades"? Just stealing the concept doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be a bad thing.

Date: 2012-06-02 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinmonsterer.livejournal.com
Oh, I think that sooner or later someone will adapt 50 shades for b/j fic, it's just that 50 shades itself is not original, lol. That's the problem with it - it's a very generic concept that's been done to death before, only 50 shades turns it 5 times longer than before, and puts it into awful, cringeworthy prose. "Fabulously rich Alpha male seduces an innocent virgin and turns her into his sub" books have been written since the dawn of Harlequin, or whatever its NC-17 rated counterpart is called.

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Date: 2012-06-02 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Besides the fact that it sucks, talk to some people in the lifestyle. They are livid over the depiction of the lifestyle. Plus which, I really don't find anything remotely sexy about tampon removal in my porn. *shudders*

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Date: 2012-06-02 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysid.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] confused_bliss has a WIP called Chosen (http://confused-bliss.livejournal.com/tag/chosen) that's BDSM. I haven't read any of it, so I can't tell you whether it's good or not, but it is being updated regularly.

o_O

Date: 2012-06-02 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sungaizing85.livejournal.com
Wow, just spent an hour googling, wikipedia-ing 50 shades of grey since I had no freaking clue what it was about and I am just...errm...Just not my cup of tea. High up there with the CheeseGrater!Fic.

Uhmmm...if you want BDSM go for elyxer's site and some of her stories.

Ehmmm...for a better and much lighter, psychologicaly rational explanation/scenes of BDSM without stomping on Marquis de Sade and Sacher-Masoch go for Why not with me by indigo over on midnightwhispers.

ps. A BESTSELLER? For reals?! THUD!
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Date: 2012-06-02 09:11 pm (UTC)
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Um...what exactly is CheeseGrater!Fic????????

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Date: 2012-06-02 11:24 pm (UTC)
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Lol at comparing 50 shades to cheesegrater!fic. Well, I'm sure that if Christian invited cheesegrater to their bedroom games, Ana would orgasm just as hard as she did from every other thing he initiated, so it'd be all well in the end.

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Date: 2012-06-02 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandraj60.livejournal.com
I'm glad you all cleared up what Shades of Gray was about. It is all anyone and everyone at my job are talking about. I downloaded a sample and was unimpressed, after all, I have been reading bj fanfiction, LOL. I never got past the first 2 pages of the book.

I'm not into BDSM. It's just not my thing, but I did take a chance on confused_bliss' Chosen, and I do enjoy it.

I've read Jan Intentions and love the plot of her stories. I just skip through the BDSM parts.

As when people as me if I have read Shades of Grey, I just tell them I'm too old and jaded for such fare. I read Anne Rice's Sleeping beauty when most of them were in grade school. I need a story with more substance than that.

Now about Twilight fanfiction...I have and do indulge. There are some excellent stories there as well as some not so good, but that can be said for anywhere as demonstrated recently about squick fics, I think it is called.^^

Date: 2012-06-02 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petulant2u.livejournal.com
I don't get the '50 shades' craze. It's rehashed porn, and not good porn either. The first BDSM book I read was the story of 'O'. Anyone read that?

Date: 2012-06-02 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debv3.livejournal.com
Check out leather bound and collared on midnight whispers. Have no plan to read 50 shades so can't tell you if it's the same. You might also want to check out buckeye5
's page "making a scene" is a WIP but leaves off in a good spot.

Date: 2012-06-03 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] court1429.livejournal.com
I haven't read 50 Shades and have no plan to do so, since, as mysid said so eloquently above, "I have better porn."

But if there are consent issues in 50 Shades, there are, too, in Elyxer's fic. IIRC, the fic *begins* with high stakes non-con, or dub-con, at the least. Justin brings home a drunk or high Brian and proceeds, among other things, to sound him. Way outside the boundaries, IMO. I also find no recognizable Brian in that fic, but of course, that is a subjective opinion.

There's a lot of really good, really hot BDSM fic out there, but most of it is not in the QAF fandom.

Buckeye5's fic is very well done and a compelling read, IMO, though it's unfortunately been abandoned and there's not a lot of Justin in it.

Minxie's fics absolutely cannot be rec'd highly enough, IMO.

And for casual play fics, Plum, Tricia, and Vamphile have all written some very hot stories.

For those interested, Manna Francis' Administration (http://www.mannazone.org/zone/) series is very popular among a lot of people. This series has nothing to do with QAF.
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Date: 2012-06-03 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ipitydaf00l.livejournal.com
I think there's just an instant trigger for most people when 50 Shades is mentioned for a variety of reasons. Though, I think you've been linked to fics in this fandom that are BDSM related.

I've had my own problems lately with 50 Shades because of RL friends, who picked it up simply because it was on the 'best sellers' list. Since then I had to correct many misconceptions they formed since reading the book about BDSM in general and what is considered the 'norm'. I haven't read the series, only various passages here and there so it's been rather frustrating that to me, it was hiding a controlling abusive relationship under the guise of BDSM. As [livejournal.com profile] rinmonsterer notes above that it pushes the idea that regardless of your partner's feelings on a particular subject if you do it anyways, everything will be A-OK.

I'm sorry that you got the response you did, we are a vocal group here and it happens from time to time. At least you did get recs in the end in the midst of all of it? (Not that it makes it any better for being stuck in the middle of all of this, mind you.)

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Date: 2012-06-03 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com
No need to be sorry, hon, and I truly hope you did not feel attacked in any way! People have a lot of feelings about those books, and a discussion was sparked, which I think is good :) Although all the replies (not containing recs) were probably a bit annoying for you, lol. There was nothing wrong with your request. If you were looking for fics truer to the bdsm lifestyle, that's especially awesome, and I hope somewhere in all this we helped you find some.

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