[identity profile] on-z-moon.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] getithere
I'm almost positive that I watched somewhere in a commentary that Randy and Fabrizio (Ethan) went on an actual date to get a feel for the Justin/Ethan arc. Does anyone know where I can find this piece of knowledge?
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Date: 2009-08-19 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dani-blondy.livejournal.com
Uhh Happy Fanning.

I can say it does Nothing for me but each to there own

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Date: 2009-08-19 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dani-blondy.livejournal.com
No and I never will be.

Oh and if your up for Spoilers of the SPN Kind Check out [livejournal.com profile] dean_sam

Not really spoilery but something on the DVD that was posted there fairly recently that you may enjoy

Date: 2009-08-19 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highd.livejournal.com
Not asking this because I want a fight, but how can you ship Ethan/Justin. Brian and Justin might not be everyone's cup of tea but at least Brian wanted Justin to be the best person he could be and encourage him to be out and proud. How can you want Justin to be with a man that would ask him to hid who he is and who lied about who Justin was to him? Even if Brian wasn't in the picture Ethan would be a bad choice for anyone to be with.

Ethan cared about himself, and was mentally abusive to Justin, I don't even really like Justin, but having him end up with Ethan.. makes me sad. Brian fucking loved himself but also cared deeply for his friends and Justin and always wanted them to have a life where they were who they were and free... Honestly your ship actually makes me sad.

That being said, I am not a shipper unless you count my love for season 4 and 5 Brian/Ted friendship other then that I am a true blue 100% Brian fan.
Edited Date: 2009-08-19 06:37 pm (UTC)
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Modly Intervention

Date: 2009-08-19 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
While I find the conversation interesting, especially the J/E shipping thing, which...never mind...this would be better discussed outside of the comm.

If you do decide to post this to your personal journal, I'd have a lot to say about it.

As you were.
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Re: Modly Intervention

Date: 2009-08-19 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Nice icon.

My point had nothing to do with your ship, but with the disintegration of the conversation. This comm is for fic finding, among other things. When I see a conversation going south, as shipper wars tend to, it's my job to step in. I stepped in.

Take that however you like.

Date: 2009-08-19 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blissink.livejournal.com
Ethan was the best freaking thing that ever happened to Justin, IMO.

If Ethan hadn't come into Justin's life, Justin may never have realized how brian really did care for him and how Brian's version of love was way better than the immature flowers and picnics Justin thought he wanted.

And even though I LOVE B&J and they are my true 'Ship, and I would have been unhappy if they hadn't gotten back together and Justin had stayed with Ethan, I still don't see any way in which Ethan was "mentally abusive" to justin. WTF?! That comes out of left field to me.

Ethan wanted to closet the relationship, yes but Justin agreed. i don't see that as mental abuse and if nobody remembers it was BRIAN who encouraged Ethan to do so. And cheating isn't mental abusive - it's physical betrayal.

Also brian had a tendency of rubbing tricks in Justin's face - in S2 especially - when he KNEW Justin was sensitive about the "open" part of their relationship. that's kind mentally abusive.

Just giving my 2 cents. Take it or leave it!

Would love to have a link to that "date" tidbit though if someone finds it. So Karyn can overheat - lol

cheers,
Izzy

Date: 2009-08-19 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
See above mod comment.

Date: 2009-08-19 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blissink.livejournal.com
No need to. See last comment of my post where I talke dabout the request video again.

bringing it back on topic.

Date: 2009-08-19 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highd.livejournal.com
Ethan was a plot device, I don't even think of him as a real character. If the writers of the show would have been consistent with how they wrote Justin, Ethan wouldn't have been needed. But since the writers wrote tail end of season 2 Justin like he was Michael, so sure Ethan had a purpose.

However I stand by my mentally abusive comment. If I was lied about to my face, if I was constantly told I was the one, if I was given a ring and then find out that it was all bullshit and manipulation I would feel pretty abused. There were times while watching these episodes that I would shake my head and think "WTF" how can anyone want to be with Ethan he has nothing to offer other than words and even those weren't truthful. Also all I could see was a gay Scott Hope when he was on QAF.

I will always feel this corvette>>>>>ethan


Date: 2009-08-20 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaedhal.livejournal.com
You remind me of the fun-filled days of "The Chinrat"!

Ah, so many really grotesque fics came out of
that hiatus between S2 and S3!

Date: 2009-08-20 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highd.livejournal.com
The hiatus from hell will never be forgotten!!! I am still bitter, Cowlip made me crazy. Good times.... Seriously I still love the show, not even BSG could fill the hole that QAF let in my heart.

Date: 2009-08-20 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
You remind me of the fun-filled days of "The Chinrat"!

*snicker!snort*

I mean, hey, no shipper wars discussion!!!

Oh, hell, never mind.

Date: 2009-08-19 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highd.livejournal.com
On a more happy note. You guys totally rock. Passion for QAF still being alive is so great. Loving this show for 9 years and still having the passion I have for it makes me tingle a bit.

I am going to start a rewatch tomorrow night. I think, it's been a few years since I have had a 5 season marathon.

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