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Hahah. Hahahhahah.

Jeez, everyone is getting so defensive. I understand that my comment was pasted as I said in reference to another comment I made IN DEFENSE of why I write it. I wasn't trying to be rude and as I realize that everyone views things differently I was just explaining my side.

But Mikey hate... bwhaahahha

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I'm just saying that it's weird to me that people are more offended by mpreg than character bashing, that's all.

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*feeds with fish*

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*laughs*

But some would say mpreg IS character bashing.

*see icon*

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yea, we should set up a vigilante group. Next time anyone asks for anti-Mikey, someone's gonna steal their crayons :[

*tosses cat snacks to ryosato's icon*

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I've written anti-Mikey a few times I think.... and I've had people wonder why in some cases something wasn't anti Mikey and though I can understand the need at times or the appeal, its sort of overdone unless someone does it in a really creative way. But this is also coming from a girl that up until the last year or so of B/J fic world, has read nearly every last thing.

Cat snacks? Hehehe.... feral ones. (is that the right word?)

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Hahaha XD

You know, I get that there are people that don't like certain characters. It's just really WEIRD to me that in this fandom it's so OPEN and ACCEPTED. It even seems like people assume that everyone hates Michael. Really weird. I've just never been in a fandom where a character was consistently accepted as being written out of character just for the sake of hating them, and everyone just didn't mind it. >_>;

Mpreg on the other hand, is in all fandoms, and people like it or they don't. (I don't, but whatever.) So I guess it's weird to me that people were more offended by a weird type of fic than character bashing.

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You're right. It is odd how people assume we all hate him. Now, I will admit that I have issues with cowpie in direct reflection to Mikey's 'happy ending' and Brian's... 'happy back to the beginning' and I do hate that Micheal's bullshit was rarely called out and that there were issues left in the dust I feel he should have had to overcome or be brought to light to get some of that 'happiness and growth' that somehow deceivingly seemed to be so different than Brian's in the end. And in taking in his character issues in my Season six there isn't hate, just more of taking his character through those never dealt with issues, exposing them, and then working through them to a real conclusion.

Anyway, my point... why when you could write AU and have any villan you wanted would you always choose Mikey?

Not that I haven't read some good anti-mikey stories, but yeah it's odd that it's accepted.

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Oh, I agree about all that... there are a lot of issues, especially with the end of the series, Brian really got fucked (and not in a positive, life affirming way) at the end, there. But I guess I don't blame Michael for that. I blame the freaking evil writers. XP

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Yes, much of my blame lies within the writers and then for me to bring Micheal into the man I know he is inside is to make him atone for his past mistakes. That's my thing. Just the same way other characters did and should. That was my biggest beef with Cowpies crap. But then, they had so many writers writing each sentence I'm sure it was practically like a roundrobin in fanfic.

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hum. Maybe it's not so much accepted, as tolerated. (plz ignore that those words mean the same thing, it's late here, lol. use 'endure' ?) For some reason this fandom isn't too confrontational. I noticed that trying to discuss touchy subjects could be hard around here :D Things like Mikey hate are usually griped about in private posts, in public they're just ignored because, duh, you won't make anyone like Mikey and they might end up, like, creating some super secret community to pass anti-Michael fics under the table, and then - how will you know which fics to avoid? :D

But I don't know, in final fantasy fandom, for one, there's pretty much character bashing - especially of the female ones by girls writing yaoi slash :D It's frowned upon too, by the more grown-up authors, but well, what can you do about it except ignore it?

And I am not offended by mpreg, argh. I really don't lose sleep about it, I just... don't read it and was curious why others do :D

Edited Date: 2008-10-20 11:39 pm (UTC)

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Maybe it's tolerated. >_> Seems like accepted largely to me, but maybe not. XD I have noticed the huge avoiding of wank in the fandom, which is good! But also means that people that like B/M tend to just hide away in the dark recesses of the fandom, rather than be easily accessable. Or other pairings, too. Ah well. XP

But yeah I don't care about mpreg. Most of it seems like crack to me, but that's just me. If people enjoy it, eh, whatever. XP I don't get it either. XD Just something I accept that I'll never understand. XP

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But also means that people that like B/M tend to just hide away in the dark recesses of the fandom, rather than be easily accessable.
er, yeah. And when you do meet them, sparks fly like whoa and I don't mean the new year's fireworks :D
Let's not talk about the dreaded B/M subject, it lures demons out of the basements *is a hypocrite* Unless you meant Ben/Mikey? D:

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*laugh* Okay, okay. Brian / Justin is my OTP. XP But I admit to liking some other random couplings too, in a crack respect. Like Brian / Michael. Of course Ben / Michael is the OTP for them and I love them together. But... come on... crack!fic is fun sexy times too. >_>

I just think it's sad that people take their pairings so seriously that we can't all enjoy a little weird side-pairings sometimes, too. XP

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lol. It's not that I take Brian/Justin too seriously. It's just that Brian/Mikey, err, squicks me :D Ben/Mikey is ok.

I don't love Mikey, but when he's written well, then I even like him. A bit P:

For some reason I keep remembering how Hal said that kissing another guy is like kissing a dog. lol. No, Brian is a cat person, definitely.

crack is gooood.

ok, i guess i'll go to bed before i start sounding like a total zombie. good night \^_^/

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Hal actually didn't say it, it was.. whatever that dude's name is that played Doctor Dave, I think?

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huh? Nowai, it was Hal. Dr. Dave said that he has to brush his teeth/puke/rinse with bleacher after a gay kissing scene.

'twas Hal:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262985/faq

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*Visions of mpreg shall now invade your dreams* :) Or maybe your nightmares? Hahahah. Its just so funny. As though perhaps some think I may wish to offend you? I don't... promise.

What is yaoi slash? Sorry I'm guessing I should know this.

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Slash really just means pairing characters of the same gender. Yaoi is male / male porn from Japan. (Although it's used loosely in the USA just to mean male / male stuff of all kinds, not just porn.)

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yaoi is a whole humongous genre of manga (japanese comics and graphic novels) and anime (japanese animations) about gay love and gay sex, written almost exclusively by women for women. There are, like, millions of titles in this genre. It's a whole huge industry.

slash is, you know, when you pick two characters from a book/comic/film/etc, and pair them together. That is, given that they weren't originally together. Then you write porn about them. It's usually gay porn.

yaoi slash is, I think, when you pair up male characters from japanese comics, animations or games. But yaoi is sometimes used by anime fans as general term for homosexual content (esp. fanfic), even though technically it's not yaoi, 'cause yaoi is graphic. If that makes sense, lol. But it's quite possible that I invented the term 'yaoi slash' just now.

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Hehe you didn't really invent it, it's just sort of like saying 'pizza pie'. XP

Slash is supposed to only be gay couplings, lesbian or male, but always homosexual in nature. However, I think people are starting to use it to mean ANY coupling..... oh, these terms never stay the same. XD;;

It actually was invented in the Trekkie fandom WAY back in the day. It stands for the / that you put between characters names when you're pairing them. It was invented by Kirk/Spock fans. XD

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I might've actually seen a very convincing Kirk/Spock fanvid once?

damn, i was just sending those 'yaoi slash(c) - invented by rin, made by you' t-shirt designs to the printers :< aw, shucks.

Edited Date: 2008-10-21 12:14 am (UTC)

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