Mpreg/Abuse

[dreamy-jean.livejournal.com]

Hey there.
So, is there any Justin Mpreg? I've read all th one's on Bjfic and Midnight Whisper. So I really, really need some. Bonus points if Jus is in an abusive realationship.

Oh and can anyone rec me any Anit-Mikey stories? (;

Found recs: In comnments.

Comments

[emmakinney.livejournal.com]

Hey, don't know about the abusive mpreg relationship but if you want mpreg, check out qaf_mpregfanfic, also check out queer_as_xmas and queerasholidays, they all have mpreg entries.

galeandrandy, along with ragejt, draccone, edom and many others write mpreg. I can't exactly think of them all now.

Also check out the mpreg memories in this comm.

Should find what you are looking for.

Hope I helped :)

Emma

[edom56.livejournal.com]

Hi, I have written two M-preg stories, but since you say you have read all that Midnight Whispers have to offer in that category, you have probably read those.

I don't know if emmakinney meant me in the above mentioned Edom, if she did you have to add a '56' after the edom part, but thanks for the rec, if you did mean me, Emma.

[emmakinney.livejournal.com]

Oh hey, sorry about that my dear, yeah I meant you :D

I love your mpreg stuff, I read The Letter just a few hours ago and it was so sweet, I wanted to rip Michael's fucking head off though, although I expect that was what you were going for :)

edom56

Sorry!

[qaf-fanatic.livejournal.com]

Mpreg, Justin in abusive Relationship.

http://www.bjfic.net/main/viewstory.php?sid=5286&warning=R

More info because the link is broken?

[lucretiaseeks.livejournal.com]

Hi there,

I realized this is an old thread, but perhaps someone is still receiving updates? This link is broken, so I am hoping for more information such as author and/or title so I can look. Wayback isn't being especially helpful either.

Thank you!
cLS

[rinmonsterer.livejournal.com]

just curious - why do you guys read/write mpreg fics? I mean, is it for the giggles or does it give you something exceptional on a spiritual level, that normal stories can't? I'm seriously fascinated with this movement.

[emmakinney.livejournal.com]

Well, I got into it after reading Rory's galeandrandy mpreg.

I thought it was weird at first but then it fascinated me. I presonally enjoy putting the men into these situations like pregnancy as it gives so much more scope in the kind of storyline that you can produce.

I mean, we write fiction, it is fictitious... People can write BJ as werewolves/pirates/vampires, etc. and there is nothing said about it, you know?

I actually seriously don't understand the taboo that surrounds mpreg. The characters are fictional also, it's not like we write RPS mpreg or that as we know it doesn't happen in rl.

It's just something that you an venture into because as many writers know, most storylines have been explored with BJ and the other QaF characters, or just fictional characters in general. So it's always nice to have something to explore that hasn't been done to extremes.

I love writing mpreg and non-mpreg, it's not that normal stories don't give me something, I just enjoy all genres. :) Except death!fic :(

Now, that's just my opinion, I'm not speaking for all mpreg writers as I have only written about three mpregs but maybe others will clear up their fascination for you too.

:D

[rinmonsterer.livejournal.com]

People can write BJ as werewolves/pirates/vampires, etc. and there is nothing said about it, you know?
but those are actually mainstream inventions, and there's been so much said and written about werewolves and vampires, they've been analyzed from every psychological angle and we treat them as part of our cultural reality. Mpreg, on the other hand... it's still kind of... far-fetched. Especially that vampires and werewolves originate from folklore, but mpreg... doesn't :)

I actually seriously don't understand the taboo that surrounds mpreg.
I wouldn't call that 'taboo'. I think it's mostly that we're here for man on man action. We're fascinated with male homosexual relationships and part of their uniqueness is lack of kid factor, that they are free at all time. That they are different from heterosexual relationships. And, as far as I know, male mentality is different from female in terms of maternity, which I find a big part of their charm. We want to read about men - and in qaf they're mostly promiscuous, untied men - and when you put them into pregnancy and then bringing up babies... you're crossing too far into the hetero territory. IMHO. If we wanted to read those kinds of plotlines, I'm sure most of us have enough hetero fandoms to keep us stocked on pregnancy fanfic for a lifetime.

It's not that I don't completely understand the joys some people find in mpreg ;) It's just that I find them in contradiction to what I like in my qaf. Hence the fascination with what draws you to them.

It's just something that you an venture into because as many writers know, most storylines have been explored with BJ and the other QaF characters, or just fictional characters in general. So it's always nice to have something to explore that hasn't been done to extremes.
I don't agree with you, but then again, I'm anal. And partly because for me, the actual premise is secondary. I, for one, could read high school AUs till I puke, and then some more. I don't think the limited amount of possible plotlines is the end, because what matters more to me is character development, dialogue mastery, random gems of humor, etc. I have read very few mpreg fics, but quite a lot of every other genre, and you know what? There are thousands of potentially good plotlines wasted by bad authors, the rush to move on to the next plot bunny, underdeveloped characters, relying on cliches, etc. I can't count how many times upon finishing a fic I wished someone picked it, took the general plotline and rewrote it properly, because It could have been sooo good... but alas, was painful to read. So, anyway, that was my stock tl;dr about the woes of wasted plotlines and high expectations, sorry for the ramble P:

Thanks for reading (I hope) and taking time to explain the phenomenon. I really appreciate it. I guess I'll stick to my over-the-hill club boys and naughty teenagers bandwagon for now. But, you have fun on yours! :D

[galeandrandy.livejournal.com]

Didn't know it was a 'movement' and it's still a normal story. I've been writing it almost since the qaf fandom began, *not posted* it's always been there and its always gonna be whether in this fandom or the many others.

I've grown tired after all the years trying to explain it to anyone and I can assure you that at least on my part it is far from being for giggles and yes I know that it can't really happen in real life. But neither can 90 percent of the shit you see in fics.

I recently told the story of why I began writing it. And I have very high standards on mpreg fic and the guidelines it should be written in.
This was my recent answer as to the telling of why I began, though I must admit that I've always written stories that involved pregnancy too, and it isn't just that I write other fic as well. Below is an excerpt to the ? of why it's a bit of a ramble.

I don't expect anyone to read my fic. Just me. That's why I write. Of course I want people to read it and I know that I will get excited to write a chapter because one of my close friends want to read it. And I'm grateful for the readers I do have. I actually do have a few gay men that read the mpreg fic. And most of my gay male friends find it intriguing and have read nearly everything I've written and don't hold back with telling me how they really feel, good or bad.

(Continued in next entry)

[patheticgal.livejournal.com]

Go for it Girl!!!!! I am with you.. Love your mpreg stories

[rinmonsterer.livejournal.com]

Hey, thanks for the exhaustive explanation. I admit that I haven't looked at it from the POV of a gay man who can't adopt a kid. I'll write a proper reply when I get back home later today, sorry for the delay.

[viky-mama.livejournal.com]

I am sorry about your friend, Jeremy. I know that in real life people can be a bitch when they want. I have homophobe father (but I am not lesbian or anything and I love him), it's just that when he says things about gay and lesbian people, they are not nice at all and we get argument all the time in this topic.

And for Mpreg, I don't have a reason why I like it, I just think it would be cute. I love father and son connection. :) By the way, I so love your fic.

[rinmonsterer.livejournal.com]

Okay, first of all, I know you said this is a reposted text, but I notice some defensive tone, and my question was asked entirely neutrally. I've read one or two mpreg stories and decided they're not my cup of tea, so I moved on. I don't have a problem with you writing those stories as long as you don't have a problem with me not liking them. Thanks to your explanation, I'm finding it more plausible in some limits. And if they make anyone happy, all the better.

My basic qualm with making gay men conceive a baby together is that it makes them a heterosexual couple with two penises distributed evenly. Being unable to procreate with their partner is an integral part of being gay. It forces them to work around biological disadvantages and it shapes the dynamics of a homosexual relationship just like having a baby together shapes the heterosexual ones. Also, homosexual couples bringing up an adopted kid work different than heterosexual couples bringing up their own. Mpreg families, I assume, work like the latter.

dear crowd, can you think again before tossing lame accusations of my un-PC notions being offensive?

*Edit*
forgot my point when spelling out my point. lol. It is that I'm in this fandom for homosexual love stories, particularly for Brian Kinney's and Justin Taylor's. And for the reasons mentioned above, I don't feel like mpreg fits the bill. I'm not trying to impose this opinion on you, I'm perfectly happy with owning it exclusively :3
*/Edit*

Anyway, I suppose that I should stop here, because you're not interested in any further fine points and, just to be clear, since the crowd here is very, very confused. I am not trying to convince you to stop writing mpreg. If I have any ulterior motive - not that I'm aware of it - it's to try to reach some understanding. I personally don't even mind mpreg floating around on the internet, it's not like anyone is standing behind my chair *looks behind* keeping me at a gunpoint and making me read fanfic. I was just curious where you were coming from, because this genre isn't the most conventional thing to comprehend. Good thing I asked, because, as I said, I didn't suspect the reasons you quoted.

Peace out.

[hpgryffin.livejournal.com]

I've been in fandom several years and I know for a fact that mpreg did not just occur recently, it has been in fandom for years and years. Perhaps it's new here in B/J fics, but mpreg is certainly very, very given in almost all fandoms and I'm talking about slash here. I think that the "mystery" behind the fascination of mpreg stories is basically the sharing of the essence of life and the creation of another life that shares the traits of two male characters. I quite agree that it might sound funny because of the male physiology. But you will be amazed at how inventive writers can be. Sometimes though, when you are reading or writing mpreg, there is no need to explain in medical detail about how a male conceives or gives birth and etc. (DUH) because everyone knows it's not possible without magic, very advanced science, divine intervention, and etc. The simplest way to write it really would be to treat the male pregnancy as any normal pregnancy without the natural delivery of course (we go c/s). So the point really is that it's really a choice whether or not one wants to undertake a fanciful, fantastical, and often heartwarming journey with the beloved characters and leave one's burdens behind for hours or NOT. I hope that answers the mystery about why mpreg continues to exist among and between fandoms.

[ragejt.livejournal.com]

I’d like to add my completely ridiculous and totally unneeded opinion here. As a reader, and writer of menpreg I have to say that I love the genre for several reasons, one being I think the best revenge is knocking a guy up, hehe. But on a more serious note, I think that menpreg opens up doors that otherwise wouldn’t be explored in a male dominated storyline. The father/child relationship that a writer can nurture when the child is created of the mating couple is just different then when adding someone else to the mix. I would also like to comment that I was not offended by the question and there are many fandoms norms that I don’t get or like so being offended by someone not getting or liking menpreg would be hypocritical of me.

[lyriel86.livejournal.com]

I usually dont leave comments in lj- I'm spanish and i don't feel very confident about my english- but I LOVE mpreg and I had to say it. I really love kids in general, so I have had to read nearly everything thats on the net about qaf fics with kids. What I particularly like about mpreg -apart of the kids factor - is the way that you get to see the relationship and the way that the pregnancy is developed, it can be really sweet if well written- or angs or whatever. And of course that it is a situation that is not going to happen in rl, thats why i love to read about it, because its a new situation that you are not used to seen men put in. I just love it, i dont know why!buts not for laughing..

[cowboystracker.livejournal.com]

Here's some anti-Mikey fics:

'Accomplished Goals' by Saturn
http://midnightwhispers.ca/viewstory.php?sid=468&ageconsent=ok&warning=3

'End of an Era' and 'Seeking the Truth' by Kaite - here's her website:
http://www.geocities.com/qafkaite/

'Getting Help' and 'Hey, Bulldog' by HollyIlex
http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/qafusa/gethelp.html
http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/qafusa/qbulldog.html

HollyIlex' In Series is a bit anit-Mikey also
http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/qaf_us_in.html

Also, Midnight Whispers has 46 fics listed under the category Anti-Michael. I haven't read them all so I can't vouch for how good they are.

[the-virago84.livejournal.com]

well well, i thought this was were we came to look for recs about stories we cant find or would like to read. Not for others to put down what is being looked for. I think is HIGHLY hypocritical for ANYONE to come to a fiction site and critique people for wanting to read FICTION. I am not sure what show some people have been watching but QAF is not about promiscuous men. It is about relationships that gay men have, from their friends to their lovers and and their families. No one on that show was "untied". Furthermore I do not think it is ok for you people to force their ignorant views on subjects; to say that a man isn't as maternal (paternal)as a woman is just ghastly and is spoken with true ignorance in every sense of the word. Men have just a special and worldly bond with their children as women do- sometimes even more, and i agree with galeandrandy 100% there are plenty of males gay AND straight who have thoughts about being pregnant. Also i think it is just outrageous to say that straight couples and homosexuals have nothing in common. I really wish people would think before they "write" in this case and stop spreading their dunce ideas and opinions. (especially when you're not from the correct sex or sexuality to make such assumptions).

[rinmonsterer.livejournal.com]

can you please refrain from putting words in my mouth?
1) I didn't criticize anyone for writing or reading mpreg. I just asked why they read and write it. What's wrong with being curious?

2) I am not sure what show some people have been watching but QAF is not about promiscuous men.

Huh? Brian Kinney isn't promiscuous? Emmett isn't promiscuous? 30% (correct me if you have more accurate statistics) of qaf scenes weren't shot in a gay dance/sex club? "It's (not) all about sex" ? I know that the focus of the show isn't entirely on it, but you can't say it's not about promiscuous men. It's like saying that Postman Pat isn't about a guy who has a cat and drives a red truck. (:

3) I really wish people would think before they "write" in this case and stop spreading their dunce ideas and opinions.
So do I.

I'll get back to you later on the rest of your assumptions, but I've got to run now.

[rinmonsterer.livejournal.com]

hm... are you reading this at all? Wouldn't be surprised if you found a worthier cause to contribute your self-righteous anger for.

So, continuing.

4) Furthermore I do not think it is ok for you people to force their ignorant views on subjects
Then don't do it and we're cool. Because 'we' aren't forcing anything on anyone.

5) to say that a man isn't as maternal (paternal)as a woman is just ghastly and is spoken with true ignorance in every sense of the word.
Do you have any scientific evidence to support your point? Because if you don't then you have the same right to be wrong as anyone else.

6) Also i think it is just outrageous to say that straight couples and homosexuals have nothing in common.
I think it is outrageous how you keep indirectly quoting ideas that weren't stated here, and then insult people who haven't said them. Nobody said heterosexual and homosexual couples had nothing in common. If you claim that they're identical, then... you're wrong.

7) (especially when you're not from the correct sex or sexuality to make such assumptions).
Funny. Are you a gay man?

To summarize: you're misinterpreting my words, and I don't appreciate the not-veiled insults. I'd reply more seriously to you, if only you'd given me some arguments instead of pure hatred. But alas.

Peace (:

[ryosato.livejournal.com]

I'm saddened by the fact that the thing people are asking questions about is the mpreg and not the Mikey hate. ._.

[rinmonsterer.livejournal.com]

:D
Well, there was once a post requesting anti-Justin, by someone fed up with Mikey hate, so maybe that's a consolation?
*pats*
(I do know why people prompt for anti-Mikey, so I didn't ask, lol. I don't go lookin' for flames anymore.)

[galeandrandy.livejournal.com]

Hahah. Hahahhahah.

Jeez, everyone is getting so defensive. I understand that my comment was pasted as I said in reference to another comment I made IN DEFENSE of why I write it. I wasn't trying to be rude and as I realize that everyone views things differently I was just explaining my side.

But Mikey hate... bwhaahahha

[dreamy-jean.livejournal.com]

Thank you for your fabulous recs guys. (: