BDSM with Justin as the dominant

[mithfennas.livejournal.com]

I´m searching for BDSM-fics, where Justin is the master, where he and Brian at least switch roles (both take the submissive role from time to time) or where Justin is still getting to that point, like in that great story  "Justin" by Hephaistion-Lo which is sadly a WIP.
The only other ones I read which fit this description are Leather Bound and Collar Bound by the very talented Elyxer and a very short snippet in which Brian comes to Justin´s apartment in New York, through I can´t remember the name right now.
So, do you know of any other stories in which Brian isn´t the master in their realtionship? And I mean real BDSM stories, not only Justin topping Brian...
I know that this leaves great ground for discussion, but I think that Justin beeing the master and Brian beeing the submissive is more in canon than the other way around.

Anyway, many thanks in advance.

Mithfennas

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[hopitus82.livejournal.com]

I like this one
http://qaf-fic.com/atp/viewstory.php?sid=4724&warning=NC-17

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http://qaf-fic.com/atp/viewstory.php?sid=8377&warning=NC-17

[bkfqueer.livejournal.com]

You may find Black Heaven by Saturn and Lizzy interesting.
http://www.bjfic.net/main/viewstory.php?sid=3405&warning=NC-17
Please be aware that the other recommendation has a lot of Mary Sue moments and some het sex moments.

Thanks

[mithfennas.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the fast answers. I´m going to check it out.

[(Anonymous)]

Alpha Club series by Hollyllex http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/ddalpha.html

I'm not interested in Sk/M so I only read B/J stories and it still made seans:
New Members http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha03.html
New Members 2 http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha04.html
Interlude http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha03a.html
Exposed http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha05.html
Alpha Club USA http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha09.html

[bijou82.livejournal.com]

Sorry about that :P

Alpha Club series by Hollyllex http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/ddalpha.html

I'm not interested in Sk/M so I only read B/J stories and it still made seans:
New Members http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha03.html
New Members 2 http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha04.html
Interlude http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha03a.html
Exposed http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha05.html
Alpha Club USA http://slashcity.org/hollyilex/xddalpha/xqddalpha09.html

[netlagd.livejournal.com]

Chapter 10 of Justin is on the Yahoo Group, but not at the ATP website

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HephaistionLo_RizabeauFanFiction/message/1245?threaded=1&l=1

[edom56.livejournal.com]

I don't have a recommandation, but I do have a question. Why do you think it would be more canon if Justin is the dom and Brian the sub?

[mithfennas.livejournal.com]

Well, I think that the character of Justin is very self secure. He knows what he wants and is prepared to get it. He also doesn´t back down because he is scared of something or because there are a few problems coming up.
On the other hand he isn´t to selfish by doing what he thinks best and always thinks about other people, too. Moreover he understands their motives and reasons for doing something as he demonstrated many times with Brian in the series.
So in many ways he would be a perfect Dom (and more so in every year that he has grown) because he has the strenght to "direct" someone but at the same time is also caring and attentive for their needs.
Brian on the other hand is very insecure in a way because of his upbringing and his fear of love which could very well get in the way if he would have a Sub (not that everyone with some trauma should be a Sub ;-)).
Not to neglect the fact that a Dom/Sub - relationship is a long term partnership most of the time and if he were the one to make the decision to care for someone else on a daily basis, canon Brian would back out of it in my point of view based on his reluctancy to get too close to someone.
But if you would write him as a Sub the relationship could be build up slowly without him really noticing at first.
And he could be secure in the knowledge that he is the one ultimately in control, which he so desperately wants (cause we all know that the Sub is really setting the boundaries for the relationship) and at the same time "cared for" which he also wants even if he doesn´t believe that it could happen to him.
That Brian is a Top is of no relevance to me because there are lots of Subs who are topping and many Doms that bottom all the time.

But that´s just my point of view which I hope to have gotten across clearly enough (since english isn´t my native language).
So what do you think about this. Do you have a different opinion and why is that?

[edom56.livejournal.com]

I hadn't really given Dom/Sub relationships much thought before this post and reading Violette7 story 'pieces of the puzzle'. Now I have also read the Hollyilex series and like it a lot. I think there is a lot of merrit in what you say.

I actually started a story of my own about this. I have no idea if it will actually go anywhere, but I'll think a lot about what you have said. Thank you so much for the answer.

I think your English is just fine, but then again it's not my native toungue either.

[amaranthink.livejournal.com]

I haven't read Violette7's fic yet but I do want to. If you do finish and post a fic along these lines, I'd be interested in reading it. I have my own long WIP with Brian as sub to my OC Dom and I'm spending time exploring Brian's acceptance of his need to submit and devling into issues of his childhood abuse and unresolved issues about his relationship with Justin.

[edom56.livejournal.com]

In Violette7's fic it is Brian who is Dom. Just so you know. It's very good, very powerful.

[mithfennas.livejournal.com]

Well, I will read these stories, too. (As it is there is never enough reading material to go by.)
And I´m also very interested in your story and excited to see with what you will come up.
So, write away.....

[edom56.livejournal.com]

I've just sent the first part off to my beta. Let's see what she thinks. If she hates it, I won't post it. I value her appinion, if she does like it, it will be up as soon as she sends it back.

[amaranthink.livejournal.com]

I think you expressed this very well and I totally agree with you. I can't see Brian as a Dom - he may Top Justin and even spank or handcuff him but that's it.

I'm writing my own long WIP with Brian as sub to my OC Dom and I'm exploring a lot of Brian's acceptance of his need to submit and will even be delving into his own childhood trauma and his unresolved issues about his relationship with Justin.

What many don't realize is that Top/bottom as used in canon are sexual positions, not a philosophy, whereas Dom/sub is a way of thinking and acting and, for some, living. I'm glad to see someone who looks under the surface at the dynamics.

[mithfennas.livejournal.com]

I love your story „Making a scene“, even if one of the main characters is an original person. (And that says a lot for me because I´m avoiding these stories normally.)
Sadly I´m not really up to date with your writing. (I think I didn´t read the last three chapters which you updated – something I have to remedy immediately!)

My feelings concerning this story however are a little ambivalent because on the one hand I love how you are exploring this side of Brian - his need to overcome his childhood trauma and his fear ob being to close to someone and getting hurt in the process.
You are portraying this very in-depth and your writing is also very insightful concerning the psychological aspects.
I especially like how Brian is growing so much in this relationship and learning things along the way like the possibility to trust Aaron. It´s really wonderful to see how he is slowly unfolding.
Something you don´t see in many stories...!

But on the other hand there is this small fear concerning this story because of which I have the urge to constantly yell at Brian.
Because he can care for and love Aaron all he wants (and needs). But he shouldn´t dare falling in love with him like he did with Justin because that little spot in his heart is already reserved for someone.
He better not forget that... (winks) ;-)

[amaranthink.livejournal.com]

Point taken. There is definitely something growing between them but when you read, try to watch who it is stemming from. Brian hasn't forgotten Justin and I will fulfill my promise to reunite Brian and Justin.

I didn't know you were reading the story and I'm glad you are enjoying it. :)