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LOL! I thought I was the only one out there who finds "god-Brian" tiresome! Mostly b/c I don't think that perspective is canon. Too many times things get skewed by the authors' personal preference.

Anyway, here's an excellent angsty strong Justin story...

Conzieu's "Spin & Fall" (Mini-warning - bottom!Brian, sorta)
http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=conzieu&keyword=Spin%20and%20fall&filter=all

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I just finished re-reading that a few days ago. It's one of my favorites. I love her stories and she fits my criteria perfectly, but thanks for the rec.

Now I have a dilemma. I'm listening to Broken Image -- the Brian Stroke fic. It is so good but I wondering before I go through about 500 pages, if it is another "god-Brian" fic. I know I recommended it for the Pro-Brian request, but I was hoping it wasn't a wimpy Justin fic. He seemed pretty tough in the beginning.

I keep reading how Justin is regretful for leaving Brian the way he did, but there is no mention of the Kinney cliff and being humiliated over and over again including Brian fucking Rage at he party in front of everyone.

Is Broken Image another story where Brian can do no wrong and that Justin is wholly at fault? If so, please warn me now.

Now as far as canon, I believe that even when Brian was being an ass in canon it was out of fear and that he loved Justin from the beginning. The prom was a prime example of canon Brian to me. But it is all how a reader or writer wants to see him.

Edited Date: 2012-05-22 11:50 pm (UTC)

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Sorry, I've never read "Broken Image..."

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Thanks anyway. I just read the part where Debbie berates Justin for leaving Brian the way he did and he feels guilty about it again instead of telling her off. Wimp! When even Debbie is beating up on Justin, it's time to call it a day. :P

I going to read Sun Shines Brightly instead.

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Oy Vey!

Well, thanks... you've saved me the trouble of trying to find that Fic! I think I'll read "Beauty & The Beast" first, and then move on to "Sun Shines Brightly." (Even the clever name is intriguing in that one!)

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Broken Image a.k.a The Stroke!fic? I just read that recently and I think you'll enjoy it immensely. :) At least I did. Justin and Michael both really pull together in this and get past what can be rather overly petty differences in other fanfics (to the point of being anti-Michael) and decide that they would rather help be there for Brian instead of fighting with each other all the time.

...or maybe I just needed something involving Michael in a role other than, 'Justin's a shit!' and this one was a pleasant surprise.

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True, that Michael is not a caricature in that fic, but it seems that it is almost anti-Justin. He is constantly blamed for leaving Brian:

"I'm not a kid, Michael."

"I know you're not. You're old enough to fuck, and you're old enough to do what you want, and you're old enough to know how to betray someone. But what I think or what I know doesn't matter. What matters is that for right now, at least, Brian knows you're here and that you're fighting for him. That's all."

"I know I haven't given you any reason to trust me, but--"

"Doesn't matter," Michael repeated, insistent. "That's between you and him. But if you go in there thinking he's going to die, it's going to show, and that can't happen. Do you understand?"

So Michael is the mature enigmatic one and Justin is the opposite. It's true Justin was mature in some ways and immature in others but...

And then maybe I just misunderstood when the writer was coming from. She did write like the Rage party was canon:

"Not one day went by that he didn't regret what he had done, that he didn't see Brian's enigmatic, wry smile that last moment at Babylon."

We don';t get a lot of background. I skipped pages and tried to find some reason to continue because it is so well written. But Justin is written as selfish and that is just not the Justin I'm used to:

"'You made a damned phone call to quit your job at the diner, no explanation, no nothing.' To his surprise, he saw tears forming in her eyes and realized that he had hurt her, too. Another casualty in his pursuit of personal happiness."

And am I wrong but is there a part where Justin is sick from the stomach flu and Debbie says something about payback is hell? That could be taken out of context but I couldn't chance any further.

I will skim through it again after I read some others to build up some fortitude.

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Isn't that something that happens in the very beginning of the fic because I don't recall Justin being overly selfish in the end. They all seemed on even footing if I recall correctly, but then again I read it before the semester started and since then had three different textbooks crammed into my skull so I may not remember everything perfectly. ;)

I even wonder if Michael knew in canon that Brian sort of pushed Justin off a cliff at the Rage party, or he felt that Justin betrayed Brian by leaving him (especially in a public setting). [He apparently 'forgot' that Brian did something similar at his birthday party with Tracy...] I could see him saying something like that to Justin to tell him that if he's going to show up and say he cares for Brian, he better be willing to do it for the long haul, being an over protective friend like he is. ;)

I also think the line about 'paybacks are hell' is taken out of context, again, if I recall correctly it was somewhat of her telling Brian that Justin took care of Brian during all of it and now it was his turn... I don't think Brian was completely up to speed by then and still had some problems, but he wanted to be able to help Justin out. (In other words, she didn't mean 'Justin deserved to be sick'...do you get what I'm trying to say? Text is so confusing and bland.)

But I think that's what happens when you skim it, you only pick up on things that strike out at you and if they are taken out of context then they can be read an entirely different way and the underlying meaning is lost. (Though, I'll also admit that there have been fic [within the last year] that I go ahead and skim the last chapter before I ever start it. Bad experiences and all made me cautious, so I can understand why you do it.)

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I will take your word for it and finish the story. It is a good story; it's just that her Justin is scaring the hell out me right now.

I understood where Michael was coming from with telling Justin to be there for Brian. What I was eluding to was Justin's constant guilt about his leaving, and I can understand that as well, but the family is beating him up about it enough. Not once has anyone asked about his side of the story.

But I'm going to suck it up, put my big girl panties on, and read this fic with an unbiased attitude.

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Not once has anyone asked about his side of the story.

You know, I used to wonder about things like that when it came up in fic and one character was constantly outcast by the family, but then I think of things that happened on the show that the family failed to ask both parties what happened. They just seemed to instantly jump to one side and the battle lines were drawn. (Alright, so it's not like they ALWAYS did that, but in some pretty important instances it happened.)

Then again, considering that happens all the time in a variety of situations...I'm not sure why I'm so surprised!

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I wish I could remember more about this particular story to help you out more than that, but I'm currently in the middle of a third of a series I'm trying to play catch up on, so my mind is pretty occupied with that and some things I've been working on...

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It took a while but I finished the story. My previous opinion of it was only substantiated throughout the rest of the fic.

In my opinion -- Not Pro-Justin and more God-Brian.

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It's interesting how we could have viewed it so differently. I'll have to reread it now because I'm curious how I could have had such a different opinion about it especially when I didn't consider it God-Brian.

I might attempt to start reading it next weekend after I get a chance to catch up back on homework.

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Please let me know what you think after you read it (after you catch up on the more important homework). Maybe you could point out passages that portrays your opinion of it. I can misinterpret with the best of them and don't have problem admitting when I do, but I tried to grab something to hold onto in the story so that I could tolerate Justin in it. My hand was still empty and cold at the end.

It was a very well written story with an excellent premise. I would rec it for Pro-Brian, but the Justin I prefer was missing.

Good luck with school and thanks for trying to help me with the story.

Sandra:)

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anyusa0030.livejournal.com

its a cancer fic so maybe its not what you r looking 4 but its angst at its best.
http://ragingpixie.livejournal.com/293002.html

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Thank you. I may have read that, but, if so, it's been so long I can read it again.:)

Edited Date: 2012-05-22 11:20 pm (UTC)

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You know...I only read chap 1 of this last night but it looks promising and Brian is the little shit...lol.

And gets punished for it...bwhahahaa

Beauty and the Beast (Yep, I am not kidding) http://www.midnightwhispers.ca/viewstory.php?sid=2261&chapter=1

edit- uhhhhhm, okay this is a crack-ish fic...I am on chap 2 and oddly pleased that Craig fell into a meat grinder...bwahahaha. I have issues. Okay, this is probably what you're not looking for. I am having fun though reading it. tehehe

Edited Date: 2012-05-22 11:22 pm (UTC)

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Now Lee, you know we have similar taste. If you look into the reviews you would see that I have already been there. LOL.

I love fairy tales and this one of writer is one of my favorites so far. I think the tale fits Brian and Justin well. It's nice to read something totally out of the box once in a while and it fills my need for supernatural QAF fics.

By the way, loving the jinn fic! :D

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OMFG...I didn't look at the reviews at all...YAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!

Jumps around like a loon in glee.

Jesus, we really have the best tastes ever!!!

Oh, eyessocruel has some pretty awesome 'equal footing' fics. But I think you've read most of her work...

Dang...oh ...did you read the Indian!Justin fic? On moonshadow tribe? It's a WIP though. And kind of supernatural/historic...

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Indian!Justin????

Do you have a link for that?

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Warning - hot as hell in my opinon...oh and a bit of Daph/Jus/Bri but it makes sense...

Sun Shines Brightly http://www.mags-nificent.com/MSW/Collaborations/SSB.htm

Oh and Justin is wicked cool in this...and puts Brian in his 'place'..no not like that, get your head out of the gutter. ROFL.

Edited Date: 2012-05-22 11:45 pm (UTC)

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Thanks!

Oh, and my mind likes the gutter... why else would I be addicted to B/J Fics???

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Hahahaah..that makes two of us...or wait...a whole bunch of us. bwhahaha.
No prob, happy to help,
Lee

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I started reading the Indian fic some time ago and never finished it.

Wait it's a WIP? HA! Maybe that's why. I'll go take a look again.

The fairy tale fic as I think all of the writer's are supposed to be crackfics. I think the writer said they are based on Fractured Fairy Tales. I loved those when I was a kid.

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Well yeah it hasn't been updated in quite some time but I kind of feel like the ending of chap 7 wasn't that 'inconclusive' so I am okay with it.

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omfg...Sandraaaaaa!!!!!!! I am hypervetilating...this is...OMFG...have you read this?

http://scatterheart.livejournal.com/105315.html

This is soooo hilarious. It's written in 'Victorian English' so to speak...Brian (a nobleman) recounting his hot night with virgin starving artist Justin...

Okay, just had to tell you about it...hahah. Ran into it and almost passed out laughing and snorting like a pig. It's amazing!!!!!

Did you read Forbbiden by Circe? You can find the link on my qaf fic rec list on my LJ...it's a historic AU but Justin is a soldier under Brian and cousin to his wife Lindsay and he's AWESOME, heroic and all that. It's angsty and well written and a bit shmoopy at times.

Edited Date: 2012-05-23 01:01 am (UTC)

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Believe it or not, I'll read both.

Have you read the historical fic where Brian is a Civil War soldier that investigates a murder and Justin's father is one of the suspects?

In a way I hope you have, because I can't remember the title or the author. LOL!

Edited Date: 2012-05-23 02:25 am (UTC)

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Wasn't the author Leila Rose? The story starts off with a much, much older Brian and Justin relaxing in their bed thinking back on how they first met decades ago. It's the Civil War and Brian comes to investigate the murder of Justin's father and of course falls for feisty virginal Justin. Brian does find out who the murderer is and Justin finds out that his best friend Daphne (a slave girl) is his half sister. Good, good story. I should've saved it, my mind told me so many times but it's too late, now the link doesn't work!!!!! I think she is also the author of With A Twist. If someone has the link or know where I can get it (please don't say Wayback Machine 'cause I don't know how to use that darn thing!!!)I'd like to save it this time. Thanks

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Yeah, that Wayback machine is a sometiming thing. But here's what I usually do. Some of the stories in the Wayback machine can be found in GIH 4shared Fic Folder. The story is under a zip file named BJ fics A-Z.

Or you can try Across the Pond. I'm not sure if in there, though.

If all else fails. I could send you a copy. Just let me know. It's just that zip file is the best thing going with all the old stories you can find.

Good Luck.

Hey...wait! Thanks for the info on that story! It's a favorite and it got lost when my husband updated my ereader and deleted my categories.:)

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Angsty Pro-Jusstin fics are my favorite. My favorite fall-back
stories are by Rizabeau. They are angsty, Justin is strong, they are
long, they are wonderful,imho.
http://qaf-fic.com/atp/viewuser.php?uid=348
Hope you enjoy.
*I think New Years/Spring Fever maybe my favorites but
Songs in the Key of Love are a close second. New Years/
Spring Fever maybe shorter so might be a good place to start.*

Edited Date: 2012-05-23 12:58 pm (UTC)

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