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Fanon to Canon 'ugly naked guy'?

Writing something for Credence, this thought occurred to me. As I'm sure most anyone knows, there are quite a few things that were said or stated in QAF fandom / showtime message boards by fans that inadvertently made it onto the show in one way or another.

Just two of my favorites that I recall are 'Zen Ben' and 'Brian knocked up Sunshine'.

So if anyone can recall, 'the ugly naked guy painting', was this an actual fandom thing before Justin says it when the painting is being taken away, or was this on the show before?

EDIT: FOUND ANSWER. Okay I was confusing myself by thinking too much about it. Justin does not say exactly 'ugly', and you'd think me watching it 3 times before asking would've alleviated this question. But then I began wondering if he said it as 'ugly' elsewhere or if it was purely fanon. It is only purely fanon. Justin does NOT say 'ugly'.

Thank you!

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"That being said, I just LOOOOVe how COWPIE forgot about the whole, 'ambidextrous' remark in 101. I suppose like many things, (WV) 'it's only a half an hour outside of Pittsburgh' we're too overlook their inaccuracies and love the show anyway."

I'm with ya on the whole ambidextrous thing and I think I've even mentioned that before on these boards.

Also, I always thought the WV comment was taken way too literally. I always felt like when Justin made that comment, he was just being a smart ass about it taking so long to get out to the house...not that they were actually going to WV. You know...kind of like saying "When you said you had something to show me, I didn't think it was in buttfuck, Egypt" or something like that.

I know this is not the kind of reply you were looking for, but I just couldn't help myself (just another form of Tourette syndrome I guess :P)

LOL!, so many of my posts here go off topic nearly immediately, I'm sure the mods want to slap me around.

I however disagree about the WV comment in some ways, because Justin also often uses sarcastic remarks that are often the plain truth. He also at times to me sounds as though he may be so surprised and uneasy as well. We'll never really know, but when I add in geographical location and such, it just seems more likely that WV would be more realistic than not depending on what direction they drove, which I'm guessing was at least toward WV or the comment wouldn't have been made at all.

:) Rory

I agree. I took Justin's comment literally. It's not that far geographically but it would be a perfect distance if they wanted privacy from the gang just dropping in at all hours,lol.

Yeah, taking in more actual factors that just 'Justin is sarcastic' to me more times than not, that is how I feel. I think I've only not written it that way maybe once in all the dozens of times that I wrote any fics involving Britin, and by Britin I mean the house, not some cheesy way to describe B/J. LOL!

I have a few really strong peeves about fic.

Topping my list is English speaking, but not American writers either not using American betas or using American betas who, because they understand the meaning of the English/Aus phrasing (as we all also understand the meaning), let it go rather than being hyper-aware that this isn't the way an American would say something; these aren't the descriptives we would use. And to be honest, I've also run across a couple of American authors who must've been from the South, because they, too, used regional idiom not consistent with the Northeastern US or with B/J.

But right up there is not taking time to verify distances, driving travel times, flight travel times. I've seen fics talking about 12 hour drives or 5 hour flights to NYC or Toronto from Pittsburgh. Extended travel times could happen if there was a bad storm, plane or airport issues, car trouble, a big wreck on the highway, but those things need to be accounted for in the fic. Otherwise, it's about 7 hours to drive to New York and about 5 and half hours to drive to Toronto. And direct flights to either city are about an hour and a half. It's wayyy too easy with the internet to get correct times for something like this and to not check is just lazy writing, IMO. And boy, does it take me out of the story!

Regarding WV, I think it could go either way. It could be a facetious or sarcastic remark, or it could be true. Google was my friend, again. If you drive straight west out of Pittsburgh, you can be in WV in 30-ish minutes and it's quite possible that that area around the state line could contain wealthy suburban areas, even if their home is still on the PA side of the border. PIT, the airport, is between central Pittsburgh and WV, so that, too, would be an inducement for a lot of business execs to move that direction. It just doesn't take a lot of effort to check these kinds of things out and it adds so much reality to the story. IMO, of course.

Well, I've certainly gone on awhile about this! I have *feelings* about these things, don'tcha know? ;p

Yes you do have some feelings, lol.

I totally hear you on every single point you've made. I'm meticulous about this stuff and if something happens and I figure out later that I've made a mistake I will go back and completely rewrite many details that may come from a mistake I figured wrong with mileage or anything related to it. I even have addresses and maps from characters houses, actual stores, cinemas, schools, etc and the minutes it takes to get there just so that I can have appropriate movement of timeline in one single day.

Another thing that sort of puts more into whether Justin was being sarcastic or not, which I found out a long while ago, and forgot that this was one of my many factors in listing them there in WV for most of my fics involving Britin is zoning. I actually called the equestrian's of Pennsylvania, did some research online and found out where residents are allowed to house horses.

There is a grandfather clause in affect where, if there are horses in a stable before the zoning law, the owner of the land must always have horses or forfeit the right to keep them. The earliest zoning law on this that I could find for and around Pittsburgh was around 40 years ago. So is the Britin house 40 years old? Or further more, would people who own a house of that magnificence not have owned horses in this time and left up empty stables, if they didn't own horses they surely would've turned them into something else.

(An empty house would not likely have horses in these stables and we didn't hear Brian say horses but I doubt Brian would buy a house with dilapidated stables if we're too believe there is also a tennis court(s) then there is some good decent flat land and probably good decent stables.)

But anyway. Stables would mean horses at some point I'm sure within the recent times. This would mean that other than about 2 hours 15 minutes away a Pittsburgh outskirts is as close to any place near Pittsburgh that would allow residential zoning of horses. Unless it is a working farm, therapeutic farm, equine ranch etc, which again is not likely due to the landscape of the front and the driveway. We can tell by the land we see them travel to get there that it is likely to be a large expansive Ranch but that they more have flat land with a few stables enough for riding in their land and perhaps around a small paddock.

Okay, that was me running on and on, sorry.

Where I place Britin in my head an in most all my fics even if I don't give the address in the story (which I may have once or twice) (I have seen for myself from a home that went on the market and looked at it at a realty web site that was like in land mass, size of house and 'nature' as the one we see of Britin). And there are few houses that are any smaller than theirs. Again the thing with the stables, these richer neighborhoods on the pa boarder do not allow them which is why I move them (usually) right after the boarder where it is zoned appropriate.

. I've seen fics talking about 12 hour drives or 5 hour flights to NYC or Toronto from Pittsburgh. Extended travel times could happen if there was a bad storm, plane or airport issues, car trouble, a big wreck on the highway, but those things need to be accounted for in the fic. YES!!!!

Accountability... what a word. I suppose it is actually cowlip's timelines fault that actually made me become such a stickler while writing or reading this stuff. I'd consider myself as knowledgeable at this point of PA as I am the state I've lived my entire life. Once I read a really great story where Brian was shopping at Macy's in downtown Chicago (and this was before the asshole chain bought out Marshall Field's) and I ended up copying and pasting the story into a doc just so that I could correct that because I couldn't stand it. I wouldn't even know the fic by name now because I blotted the title out of the memory so I won't 'remember that it happened'.

I will edit my post appropriately now.

*hugs*

Oh and feel free to delete this post because I think it is so possibly inappropriate and I'd hate to have made a post here that is.

I'm so sorry about that.

:) Rory

I don't think there's anything wrong with your post. You had a legitimate question and it resulted in good discussion :)

For future reference, your previous subject line was fine, hon. You don't need to edit subject line to reflect your answer, just do the found line in the post (like you did).

Okay, thank you. I have enjoyed this discussion. Should I chance the subject line back? :) Rory

If you want :) Might make more sense.

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