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Fanon to Canon 'ugly naked guy'?

Writing something for Credence, this thought occurred to me. As I'm sure most anyone knows, there are quite a few things that were said or stated in QAF fandom / showtime message boards by fans that inadvertently made it onto the show in one way or another.

Just two of my favorites that I recall are 'Zen Ben' and 'Brian knocked up Sunshine'.

So if anyone can recall, 'the ugly naked guy painting', was this an actual fandom thing before Justin says it when the painting is being taken away, or was this on the show before?

EDIT: FOUND ANSWER. Okay I was confusing myself by thinking too much about it. Justin does not say exactly 'ugly', and you'd think me watching it 3 times before asking would've alleviated this question. But then I began wondering if he said it as 'ugly' elsewhere or if it was purely fanon. It is only purely fanon. Justin does NOT say 'ugly'.

Thank you!

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What newer fans can't comprehend is how PASSIONATELY every single detail of each episode of QAF was scrutinized and hotly debated. ad infinitum, in the intervals between episodes. Thus "minor" details such as messed-up timelines and outright errors became huge issues to us rabid fans. Watching QAF as it unfolded each week was, necessarily, a much more intense experience.

It's my opinion that the show, when watched in its entirety at one go, makes a viewer more tolerant of gaffes and lapses in characterization. An example of that is the difference in how fans accepted season 5. Original fans, watching in "real time," were mostly outraged, furious, absolutely LIVID about the ending. Newer fans seem to be more accepting and tolerant of the ending, and of CowLip.

I completely agree, it does appear that way. Though I have, with much time and the certainty of Brian and Justin's love I have come to accept 513 and even love watching the ending. But that may also be because in my head and on paper I've developed countless scenarios of their continued lives and that highlights the everlasting love they share.

CowLip, I don't know that I'll ever accept them. I have accepted what is queer as folk, and what I have to 'work with', if you know what I mean, but I still don't and never will accept so many of the issues I have with them.

Yes. This.

I'm still trying to recover from a virus so I'm limited on how much time I have to read before my eyes cross, but I had to respond to this. I am a new QAF fan who practically watched the five seasons in one sitting and I was "LIVID" about the last episode. I was so upset I took to my bed in tears, cursing the day I started watching the first episode. I will say that I am more tolerant about time-lines but only because I watched the episodes once and sped through non-bj parts (sooo not interested in seeing the other characters being intimate). I could have cared less about the inconsistency of the time lapses.

Now the inconsistency of the characters, I noticed right away. I know Justin was bashed, so I gave some leeway to that, but the episode where he leaves Brian after he gets syphilis for whoring around and then the later episode where he tries to force a trick on Brian at his bachelor party almost gave me whiplash. WTF???

"the episode where he leaves Brian after he gets syphilis for whoring around and then the later episode where he tries to force a trick on Brian at his bachelor party almost gave me whiplash."

That was so frustrating, wasn't it? It seemed like Justin had some sort of personality disorder.
J: "I want you to commit to me and only me!"
B: "Okay, let's get married."
J: "YAY! Okay, now go fuck that guy over there."
B: "No, because I have committed to you and only you."
J: "YOU SUCK! I am leaving for NYC tomorrow. C-YA!"

Arrgh.

"J: 'I want you to commit to me and only me!'
B: 'Okay, let's get married.'
J: 'YAY! Okay, now go fuck that guy over there.'
B: 'No, because I have committed to you and only you.'
J: 'YOU SUCK! I am leaving for NYC tomorrow. C-YA!'"

LMAO!!!

I thought I was the only one that picked up on that. I was so angry at the writers for that last episode. There was no rhyme or reason to it other than to break them up in the end. Justin goes to New York and Brian continues as Mikey's aging Club Boy hero. Thank God, Mikey is happy!

It was almost as if the writers made a parody of Brian acting like the "breeders" he always mocked so that we could appreciate him going back to the way he was. They never wanted Brian to grow up.

Edited 2012-02-29 18:23 (UTC)

Justin goes to New York and Brian continues as Mikey's aging Club Boy hero.

The last episode was frustrating in a lot of ways, and no, it's not a favorite of mine to watch. Yes, Justin went to New York. But the second part of your statement is only true if you decide that it is. And I don't know why you would. Because Brian was dancing? Alone? And then surrounded by friends? Missing Justin from every pore but dancing because life goes on and the thumpa thumpa goes on and he and Justin would go on.

That's what I take from it :)

I completely agree. I was SO annoyed that they ruined Brian's life, stripped him of both his son and his lover... but that was supposed to be okay because he was right where darling Michael wanted him, permanently installed at Babylon and dancing alone.

Thank god for fic because otherwise, it would be unbearable.

I dont think newbies can ever comphrend just how long we had to wait in between seasons and how in the dark we were. Yeah, we had the Sho.boards, but this was pre spoilers and te web was still pretty void in material.

I'm sure thats why we over analyzed everything...because its all we had.

Damn....we had patience and we were not rewarded for it with the finale!

Yeah, I compleatly agree with you! I´m a newbie that watched all 5 seasons in one week or so almost one year ago and I had to see first 2 episodes of season 2 at 3 a.m. at school night just to know that Justin would be ok. Can´t imagine what I would do if I have to wait in standard time.

Even worse than standard wait time... it was 6 months between the first 2 seasons...and a whole freakin year between the rest.

At least for me, I truly didnt know if Justin survived the bashing... and when they started promos for S2, Randy wasnt shown, to keep the suspense going.

No great industry reports or spoilers either...so you just had to wait.

I'm a new fan, but I have to say I do not tolerant season 5 or CowLip at all. What they did to Brian and Justin's characters that time were crime. There was no common sense from season 4 to season 5. I so understand why Gale and Randy got angry with them.

We new fans are such a poor things. We couldn't discuss every episode like old fans who watched each week. Now it's too late. *sigh*

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