Autistic Justin
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Hi Mods and Members,
Hope you are all well and ready for the holidays :)
I have just read a really great fic called "Kiss Me Alright" by
cleverdevil and im in the mood for more stories where Justin is autistic and Brian helps him or has some kind of relationship with him.
If you would like to read the fic called "Kiss Me Alright" by
cleverdevil look here => http://www.elyxer.co.uk/cleverdevilfanfic/KMAChapters.html
Note to mods: If im not allowed to give a link like I have here,please let me know and I will take it off asap!!
Looking forward to hearing from someone about more Justin autistic fics!
Huge hugs x
Edited: Link to a similar fic in comments,thanks to
mysid ,please rec more,thanks
Hope you are all well and ready for the holidays :)
I have just read a really great fic called "Kiss Me Alright" by
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If you would like to read the fic called "Kiss Me Alright" by
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Note to mods: If im not allowed to give a link like I have here,please let me know and I will take it off asap!!
Looking forward to hearing from someone about more Justin autistic fics!
Huge hugs x
Edited: Link to a similar fic in comments,thanks to
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Date: 2010-12-10 05:51 pm (UTC)For the Love of Kai (http://www.midnightwhispers.ca/viewstory.php?sid=1124&warning=10) by Snow is an active WIP in which Justin and Brian rebuild their relationship while caring for Justin's young half-brother, Kai, who has autism. I like the care Snow has put into creating an accurate protrayal of Kai's autism and of Justin's frustrations trying to help him.
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Date: 2010-12-10 06:22 pm (UTC)Huge hugs x
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Date: 2010-12-10 06:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-10 06:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-10 06:22 pm (UTC)Huge hugs x
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Date: 2010-12-10 09:37 pm (UTC)http://www.midnightwhispers.ca/viewstory.php?sid=1124&warning=10
I really love this story and the interactions between Justin, Kai and Brian, most of all how patient and understanding Brian is.
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Date: 2010-12-10 09:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-10 07:52 pm (UTC)Just so you know, though, this particular fic caused a fuck ton of drama in fandom after it was posted and many authors removed their fics from MW and bjfic.net in protest when it was allowed to stay up on those archives, so there may be some who don't respond positively to this fic.
I know authors in all fandoms put characters in every situation under the sun and give them every disease and malady in the medical texts, but there are two very definite camps regarding this fic.
Some think it's fabulous and cite it as a favorite; others are horrified and think it crossed an inviolable line and turned Brian into a pedophile since Justin can't give actual consent. There were several people who have children or siblings who are autistic who were livid and hurt that anyone would write or champion a fic about crossing this boundary.
As mysid says, it's kinda hard to imagine other similar fic. There's one where Justin is mute (by choice, maybe? I've never read it), that might work for your request, but I don't know the title or author.
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Date: 2010-12-10 09:51 pm (UTC)I think Daniel Tammet stated it best in Born on a Blue Day:
Falling in love is like nothing else; there isn't a right or a wrong way to fall in love with another person, no mathematical equation for love and the perfect relationship.
Sorry, I just thought it was interesting to read this response to the post.
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Date: 2010-12-11 02:58 am (UTC)That 29 to 17 age difference still may be squicky to some, but it wasn't ever illegal and Justin was in no way coerced.
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Date: 2010-12-11 02:52 am (UTC)My comment referred specifically to that fic and the serious eyebrow raising (at the least) that it engendered. To keep it about fic, jans_intentions wrote a fic about Brian suffering a brain injury. Justin moved back from NYC to Britin to care for him and he definitely has residual issues. They resumed, after awhile, their sexual relationship. That's a much different scenario, IMO, than Kiss Me All Right.
And people can write and read whatever they want, most definitely. I was just pointing out that some people equally strong opposing viewpoints on that fic. I've never heard of any other fic getting so much attention due to subject matter.
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Date: 2010-12-11 03:11 am (UTC)Well, there was serial killer mermaid!Brian...
Damn, I thought I had that icon loaded here...oh well. Here, have some hair!porn!
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Date: 2010-12-11 04:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-11 03:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-11 03:46 am (UTC)Squicks, like kinks, are very much a personal reaction, no different than preferences in taste or smell, IMO.
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Date: 2010-12-11 01:36 pm (UTC)I know the topic is very delicate and I was kinda afraid to ask if there were simalar fics to it incase I caused problems.
I have a cousin who has autism but his is not the same as the one the author has written Justin to be....because hes very cheeky lol.
I guess what I loved most about the fic is the way the author allowed Justin to experince love and intimacy with Brian and I felt that because Justin said things like "lick Prian's lips" or what ever, that he knew that he wanted to do that and I also in general felt that Justin didn't do anything with Pri...sorry Brian,that was against his will,except of course for being taken back to the tower (hospital).
Its posible of course that im wrong about all of this but its just what I thought when I read further into it.
Im sorry if this was a bad question to ask in here,please don't kick me out.
Huge hugs x
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Date: 2010-12-11 05:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-11 04:12 pm (UTC)The main problem with autism is the communication with the outside world. But they can learn to communicate nonetheless, specially if they are high functioning. And in this fic, Justin is completely capable to communicate his wants and needs, in his own personal way. And he wants Brian, and he needs to leave the hospital.
Why is it that 'normal' people think they can state who is allowed to fall in love and who isn't? Love is something that cannot be controled. Justin KNOWS what he wants in this story, and Brian reacts outstandingly to every situation.
I think 'Kiss Me Alright' is a beautiful story. A story that shows us an amazing inner world full of beauty and magic. A really lovely look into how an autistic mind could work.
There's a movie, 'Miracle Run', that shows two high functioning autistics and how they learn to communicate with the outside world. One of them even falls in love. Considering it's based in a real story, I think it shall be acurate enough, right? Watching that movie and reading 'Kiss Me Alright', I don't think there's such a difference between what's told in the fic and the real thing.
I can understand, however, why this fic caused such a reaction in the fandom. I understand why someone would think it's sick. But I stick to my opinion. ;-)
Again, I recommend the amazing 'For the Love of Kai'. It's a beautiful story. :-)
Greetings from Spain! ^^
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Date: 2010-12-11 05:35 pm (UTC)I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in this fandom who doesn't support the right of a person to love and create a life with another person(s) irrespective of personal challenges.
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Date: 2010-12-11 06:23 pm (UTC)I was not attacking the fandom with my comment. I'm sorry if I made it seem as if I was doing that. :-S It's just that sometimes I can't make my point the way I would want to, since English isn't my native tongue.
I was just stating my opinion on this controversial subject, and of course, I absolutely respect everyone else's opinions too. I just wanted to state mine. :-)
Greetings from Spain!
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Date: 2010-12-11 06:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-11 06:47 pm (UTC)I'm sorry for the misunderstanding again, and thanks for your kind words regarding my English. ^^ I try very hard every day to improve my English. :-)
Talk to you soon!
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Date: 2010-12-13 06:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-14 01:23 pm (UTC)xox
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Date: 2010-12-13 08:05 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-12-26 06:02 pm (UTC)I would really liked to read "Autistic Artist" but can't manage to find it anywhere. Any idea how or where to get it?
Btw, thanks for the rec' of 'For the love of Kay", it is a beautiful story!
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Date: 2010-12-14 12:51 am (UTC)I felt sorry for the author that people gave her such a hard time. I would think that, especially in QAF fandom, people wouldn't support censorship and would try to co-exist peacefully.
Anyway, good rec. I'm glad that more people might have a chance to read this creative and touching fic!
If people take issue with your reccing it, I hope they do what everyone should've done with the fic in the first place: If they don't like it, just move along!
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Date: 2010-12-14 02:09 am (UTC)And yes "If people take issue with your reccing it, I hope they do what everyone should've done with the fic in the first place: If they don't like it, just move along!"
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Date: 2010-12-14 01:20 pm (UTC)Thank you x
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Date: 2010-12-14 01:22 pm (UTC)I also agree it is very creative and touching :)
Thank you for commenting :)
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Date: 2010-12-14 05:10 am (UTC)As far as drama goes, KMA is probably my favorite fic ever. I also have a sibling with cognitive disability and I'm very active in the disability community. While there's a few things about the fic I found a little politically incorrect from this standpoint, I think it's always wonderful for characters with disabilities to be portrayed with sexual autonomy and self-determination in their adult lives. Too often this community is infantilized, and I think there's actually a great lesson to take away from this story.
This also seems like a good opportunity to mention that if anyone in this fandom is an advocate for gay rights but still says "retard" in their day-to-day lives, then it's time to rethink some things.
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Date: 2010-12-14 01:18 pm (UTC)Even people who have a disability should not be labelled as retards I think.
Thanks for commenting :)