[identity profile] yaoigirl18.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] getithere
Knittedshadow's journal is f-locked and I've been waiting after commenting, but I haven't been friended back yet and it has been awhile. I was wondering if anyone has copies of her stories, especially the deaf story. Although I do want to read all of her stories, I love disability stories.

Please and thank you.

Date: 2012-01-08 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com
I'm thinking someone will probably pop up with a copy of Life After Deaf. But you might want to also PM knittedshadow about the friending if you haven't, in case she missed your comment.

At QAF Vault (http://qafvault.com/), there are four Gale/Randy RPS fics by knittedshadow, as well as one B/J fic called Justin's Scrapbox, if you want to check those out.

Date: 2012-01-08 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellydeer.livejournal.com
If anyone does pop up with that, I'd like it too (I know how the mods dislike 'me toos', but since no one has posted it, I don't have anyone to PM...sorry :(

Date: 2012-01-09 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pet0511.livejournal.com
I like to use this post as an opportunity to get out a question which popps up in my mind every time I see something like this.
Mods, I hope you don't mind me asking this here...?
I'm a hardcore-reader and still a computer-dumbie. Therefore I was afraid up from my very first fanfiction that this " reader's heaven" would disappear once I close my computer. That was the reason for me to save a lot of fics just for the use of my own re-reading. Some are from unlocked journals, some are from f-locked ones.
I don't know any writer besides the two well known who ever really forbid to give stories/pdf's away but still I'm very uncertain about that and the last thing I want to do is being disrespectful to any writer (because I want to honor every one here who puts so much work and joy and thoughts in it), and I also don't want to stir up a fight.
This being said here is my question: on of the story which is been asked for here I do have. But what if I send it so someone could put it probably into the "lost fics" - how I can be sure that this won't offend the writer?
Sorry for the long post. I would have asked this in my journal but only a few would read it there.
Pet

Date: 2012-01-09 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ipitydaf00l.livejournal.com
I think that right there is a million dollar question because you'll never know unless you can still contact the author to ask them. I know there's several that disappeared, left the fandom, lost fanfic when other websites were shut down, deleted their journals, etc.

It's hard when others who recently entered the fandom or even possibly read it the first time to come back to read it later on suddenly aren't able to. It becomes an issue of what 'is okay' and I think the similar question was brought up when someone wanted to make a community dedicated to completing abandoned fics. (Because where exactly is the fine line drawn of going too far?)

*shrugs* While I'll admit that this is a long way of saying I'm not sure what to tell you, I want you to realize it's a question that has been brought up time and time again in a variety of fandoms and still there area always those on one side of the debate vs. the other.

Sadly though, like all things even things people have requested to not be shared are still uploaded on a variety of websites. (Just like people uploading movies, music, etc.)

I at least think this community is great in the fact that if there is fanfic uploaded that the author doesn't want, it is removed. Really, that's all they can do.

Date: 2012-01-09 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pet0511.livejournal.com
It's my first fandom, therefore my experience is limited. In the first months I saved like a maniac without even thinking about someone could leave or so. I really couldn't believe that the internet world hosted so many brilliant writers and "all were there in my computer". It was way before I even knew that a fandom exists.
But over the time I saw some leaving, for other fandoms or for good, and I became sad. And when the old queer eyes site didn't work anymore, I really felt a loss for us all. I really wouldn't mind to ask the writers, then we would be in the safe side but I know that some don't respond anymore (when I finally became brave enough to write in English, I contacted some from the older writers to just say thank you and only a few answered).
Hm. I know there is no real answer coming here but I really had to get this out. Because: even when there certainly is some misuse, I made the experience that many here are very carefully about sharing esp. f-locked fics, more that it would be expected. That's a thing I really like here.
I hope that a few more writers see this post and will give us their official permission to share stories - that would be the best, right? LOL
Thanks for your answer!!!!
Pet

Date: 2012-01-09 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ipitydaf00l.livejournal.com
I think I saw it become more of a question from those with f-locked only journals when a lot of authors realized that more people were saving their work in order to read them on e-readers now instead of online. I'll admit that the majority of my reading now is done strictly on my nook because it's so much easier on my eyes! (I have to use the computer a lot, so having that break is great.)

I know a few authors even uploaded copies of their files in e-reader formats, though for some reason they were removed with other fics from the 4shared account. I believe the mods here were looking into starting another account that they can monitor better, though I'm not sure where they are in that process.

I think you lucked out if this is your first fandom. :) I wish my older fandoms were as organized about searching for lost fics as this one is. A few others came close, but didn't have the following that [livejournal.com profile] getithere does on the ability of getting answers to questions. Sadly, I've been through a lot of fandoms over the years and seen a lot of fanfics taken down for a variety of reasons. (I knew several authors that once they jumped fandom, they would delete anything that linked them to the old one.)

Date: 2012-01-09 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pet0511.livejournal.com
I agree. The fandom is great, and this community is incredible. All the more reason to show respect. And when a writer locks his/her journal, he or she has a reason to do it, and we can take it or leave it. The mods here are doing a very fine job, you're so right.
In the case of the question of the OP, I decided to ask the author.
What you said about the ereader: I second this. Before I bought my first iPad, I had no idea....but once I noticed how easier it is to read here, I barely go back to the computer.

Date: 2012-01-09 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ipitydaf00l.livejournal.com
Which is why I said it was a question that was impossible to answer because there are so many variables involved. In this case, if the author is still active and around then contacting would be the best option, but sometimes that's not the case.

I haven't read anything by this author before, but I'll admit to being curious now.

Date: 2012-01-09 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] court1429.livejournal.com
As [livejournal.com profile] ipitydaf00l says, this question does come up from time to time. I made this post (http://getithere.livejournal.com/1463527.html) about a year ago to try to answer that question in a way that accommodates both readers and writers.

Regarding locked LJs, well, there are lots of reasons people lock their journals. One reason is to make sure RL people or underage folks don't access porny fic, graphics, etc. or be able to read it in a google search. I mean, if you're writing fic in a fandom, you probably want it to be read by other fandom members, just not your mom! lol My own is locked and I barely have anything in there at all.

Date: 2012-01-09 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
My own is locked and I barely have anything in there at all.

Whereas mine is unlocked cause I don't give a shit what anyone sees. Only very personal posts are flocked and/or filtered. Other than that, I dun curr.

Date: 2012-01-09 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellydeer.livejournal.com
LOL! I love your attitude. Dare I say it is soooooo 'Kinneyesque'!

Date: 2012-01-09 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Oh, honey, I think my attitude is well known by now. LOL Ask anyone I've pissed off lately. I'm sure there's a few.

Date: 2012-01-09 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pet0511.livejournal.com
Thanks for your answer and also for the link to your old post.
Of course you're right: there might be different reasons to lock a journal, and you would think that a writer of fanfiction wants to share them with other fandom members.
Your post made me think: coming from a legal system like it is in Germany my first thought was no, that can't be handled this way. It's not ok to assume permission until the author says otherwise.
But then I re-thought it - many writers here are coming from a bit more liberal systems and seem to share your suggestion and opinion - you would think that otherwise your post had caused more reactions from writers who don't accept that. Coming from that I agree that your point of view makes sense. But I'm happy that I finally asked. I'm really too unexperienced in fandom stuff.

Date: 2012-01-20 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love4movies.livejournal.com
Just discovered, that [livejournal.com profile] knittedshadow unlocked all of her fics!

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