[identity profile] anyusa0030.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] getithere
i was so sure i saved this enterview given by the writers of qaf in which they talk about various kinds of love,the interview was given post the finale to explain the ending.anyone with the link please help.

FOUND IN THE COMMENT,THANKS

Date: 2011-12-27 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
That's the interview that Shawn Postoff did that pretty much pissed off the entire fanbase. Unless someone has it copied, I can't find it online. It used to be at What Love Means, which is no longer available.

Date: 2011-12-27 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com
I found this link (http://anyusa0030.livejournal.com/983.html) in a post under the "fandom: articles & interviews" tag :)

Date: 2011-12-27 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soulmatejunkee.livejournal.com
Okay, now I read that and... okay, he's a writer, but did he ever watched the outcoming of the writing? Because even though he/they probably meant to show it that way - the actors, especially Gale Harold as Brian, seemed to follow different plans...

Date: 2011-12-27 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Thus my point that the article pissed off most of fandom. He was blathering on about Brian's "growth" and totally missing the point that at the end, Brian was fine with letting Justin go to NYC to finish his transition from boy to man. He was alone, but not lonely, and he and Justin were stronger than ever.

THAT was the show I watched. Not sure what Postoff was watching.

Date: 2011-12-28 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soulmatejunkee.livejournal.com
Maybe he wasn't a big B/J fan?
Maybe he was more into the Br/M relationship?
Who knows?

Anyway, the Brian he describes is the Brian from the first half of Season 1. As if all the other Seasons never happened. It's a little weird.

I mean you can interpret the end like you want to, but definitely not as "Brian's not into romantic relationships and Justin leaves because he finally realized that" - what was the point of the ILY and the proposal and the house if none of that really mattered to Brian? *is confused* And it was Brian who almost burst out in tears during their goodbye... and I am supposed to believe he didn't really care? *is really confused*

Date: 2011-12-28 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Well, to be honest, GALE nearly burst into tears during the goodbye, not Brian. After they filmed that scene, when Brian and Justin hug, that was the last scene filmed, remember? And Gale was a MESS! They were saying thanks to the crew and everything, and then Gale is an incoherent, blubbering mess at the end. Randy wasn't much better.

That said, tho...I do agree that Postoff sounded as if he were describing S1 Brian.

I'd heard that C/L was really not very impressed with their viewing demographic. Like they were pissed that their audience was almost entirely female, with an average age span of 30-49. And oddly, even ironically, Russell T Davies felt the same, because his audience demo for Torchwood was almost the same. And he blew up Jack/Ianto with an almost unholy glee. What I'd really like to see/read is an article about why having a predominantly female, straight audience for your shows with gay men is a bad thing. God knows women can and do get the word out.

tl;dr

Date: 2011-12-28 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soulmatejunkee.livejournal.com
Hm, maybe it's because they wanted to create a show for gays *shrugs*
Maybe that was their goal, maybe they thought by doing what they did the gay community would appreciate the show more?
But honestly, I don't think that's how it works.

You can create whatever you want for whoever you want, in the end you should be thankful for every support you get, no matter who it is.

About Gale ... I know that goodbye, but I don't think that it was Gale during the scene, because that would've been... well, not good *LOL*. I think they had instructions how to play the goodbye between B/J and so they did. But even if - for the audience this was Brian (not Gale) and so Brian almost burst out in tears.

Date: 2011-12-28 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Obviously they were creating a show about gays by gays for gays...but what you want as your target audience and what you get are two totally different things. You would think that since they (C/L) had been in television for some years that they'd know that you cannot predict your audience. That almost any writer will, at some point, give that audience what they want, regardless of the initial game plan. That's the way tv works.

And sorry, but that was Gale. An actor can only do so much, but one thing they cannot fake is real emotion. If they are emotionally invested in a scene, it comes across. Brian was required to 'break down' in the hospital corridor after Justin's bashing. What started out as acting became something else. At some point, Brian crying gave way to Gale kind of losing control of his emotions. Watch the scene again. As for 513, yes, of course Brian was required to be emotional. But because it was the last scene, and because everyone on set was emotionally a mess, you can see Gale, the actor, unable to hold his emotions back. He broke character. Lots of actors do this. Sometimes it brings out an exceptional performance.

Case in point: Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now. To this day, I'm not sure what his character was supposed to be doing in the scene...maybe just drinking and acting out. But Martin Sheen was pretty messed up. Drunk, rather strung out, and in the end, he had to be rushed to the hospital for a heart attack. But that scene was Martin Sheen losing control, and the camera capturing it. It's one of the best scenes in the movie.

So yes, of course, the audience sees 'Brian'. What I saw was Gale, using his real emotions to fuel Brian's reaction to Justin leaving. Brian is a character on a piece of paper. Gale made him real. jmo

Date: 2011-12-28 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soulmatejunkee.livejournal.com
For those who know about the goodbye it might be Gale, but for the "normal" audience, this is Brian and his reaction to "losing" Justin again and that doesn't fit with what Shawn Postoff said :)

That's all I'm saying.

Date: 2012-01-02 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com
Could you update your post? Thanks! :)

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