getithere | Into 5,083 posts, some wank must fall

Well, it's 5,082 posts now... :) Gotta say that today's now-deleted post is the first of its kind that we've ever seen in this community. And dickish as it was, one post out of 5000+ is not even a blip on the meter.

For those who didn't see the post and wonder what's up, someone who rounded up a bunch of fics that are no longer available for sharing in this community, decided she'd create a new username expressly to upload said fics to an individual 4Shared page and then posted the link here in the comm.

As we've said repeatedly, what anybody chooses to save to their own hard drive and share privately is not and cannot be any of our business, but *in this community*, we go by the rules that have been posted. There aren't many, but one rule that is if an author ever notifies the maintainers that they have pulled their fics and they ask specifically that sharing *within the comm* be disallowed, we will abide by that author's request.

So far, the only author who's done so is

jans_intentions.

niquita_gia is the author who notified us today of this now-deleted post and has made a similar request regarding her fic, which we will honor.

As far as Carly's "That Darn Gus" fic, no such request has been made. Apparently, she posted her fics to bjfic.net and they were made unavailable because that archive has been dead for over 18 months now and the current owner chooses not to release it for someone else to step up and maintain. But if the archive came back online, that fic and many others would be available once more.

This should answer any questions regarding the wee bit of drama that is now over and done with. Carry on reading and searching and being the awesome comm members that you all are!

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Maybe I failed to clarify my point. They could do that, but if no one has not uploaded them, they will obviously fail. However, knowing that someone did upload them, then yes, they can search and find them. (Kind of, this is advertising what the person did in the first place, giving everyone opportunities to go look? You can't control what people do with this information, but I feel the less information about it the better if we are keeping the rule.) No disrespect intended, I think you guys do a marvelous job here, but....

I don't know, that was just my thought when I first saw this post was that now we had information on just who the author's could possibly be, where to do a search from, and that they were bulk uploaded...so easier to just find one random one and access the whole folder.

Ah.

Well, actually, no, I don't think it's advertising at all. Here's the thing. Those fics are available out there in the webz for anyone with the patience to find them. They always have been. Another point is, unless you know the file storage account holder, how are you going to remove them? You can't. That's just the way it is. We're doing only what we've been asked o do here. Giving out the info about our decision is for the general knowledge of the comm...and any would be people wanting to start trouble. Do it, you get banned.

That's as far as I'm willing to go for an author. If they want to go chase down where their fic is, more power to them. Our rule is simple: a writer asks us to tell people not to share their fic. That's what we do. That's it. Someone violates that, we delete the post and ban the person. Problem is, that post was up for several hours before we got it down. Do you honestly think that people didn't download the fic while the links were visible? Trust me, they did. Can I prove it? Of course not. But I've been around a long time, in many fandoms, and I know how this works.

Haha, I guess I'm not a very patient person or willing to go to extreme lengths just for fanfic. There's always been one that I've been curious about that

jans_intentions wrote, but I've already discovered that apparently it was rewritten as original? (Someone told me I should just read the new version it was close to the same.) It sort of turned me off the idea after that. The idea of Brian/Justin great, the idea that their names could so easily just be renamed and suddenly they are different people makes me wonder if they even had the same personalities as their namesakes or were just cardboard characters that were named Brian and Justin. (I read one fic that was going to be re-done as an original and kept finding myself go, 'Nothing they do or say actually relates to their personality in the first place, why wasn't this original to begin with? Completely different fandom, though, but the idea is the same.)

Sorry, I sort of rambled off onto another tangent. I missed the post, and I'm sort of glad. :) (I'm sure it didn't go over well either way.)

lol I can't tell you how many fics I've read where my first thought is, "Please to be telling me ~how, exactly you thought these characters you've named after QAF characters have any resemblance whatsoever to the actual characters. Have you actually seen the show?" ;DD (Course, around here, we just call that bad!fic and be done with it!)

Yeah, I know it could be considered bad!fic, but on the other hand is the fact that really good quality writing should not be used in that shape or form. Too many fandoms I'm in lately have had writers make fanfic with an idea they have with characters people adore just to get their feelings on the idea. Then they yank it off the net and then sell it as their original fic while many are going, 'Didn't I read something just like that not too long ago?!?'

I think there should be a new name for that, and not just bad!fic. Because bad!fic to me is a lot worse!

Right. I was really talking about bad!fic that's only just fanfic. Just crappy fanfic. IMO. In someone ~else's opinion, it might be their favorite fanfic evAR!

I've heard about people doing what you describe, though. Again, I think the word we might be looking for is plagiarism. Or at least a second cousin to.

"Please to be telling me ~how, exactly you thought these characters you've named after QAF characters have any resemblance whatsoever to the actual characters. Have you actually seen the show?"

LOL, omg, I almost forgot to comment on the interchangeable QAF-Buffy-LOTF fic! Um... going to guess... Brian/Justin = Spike/Buffy = uh........ Aragorn/Legolas???

:-O

Make that LOTR. LOTF would be Lord of the Flies, lol. Though, who knows, maybe they used their super durable all-purpose fics for that fandom, too!

http://ciraarana.livejournal.com/94492.html#cutid11

To illustrate your point, I call your attention to the second paragraph.

<3 That made me laugh hardcore.

Please come out, whoever you are! A request, not an order.

Funny, what caught my eye was the review of A Thousand Beautiful Things, one of my Top Three Harry/Draco fics ever. The reviewer was spot on. I never read the first one discussed, so...but yeah, I pretty much agree with the assessment. I LOATHE unrealistic D/s fic. If you're gonna write it, RESEARCH IT FIRST.

I could be wrong but my recollection is that she had someone beta it who was versed in these things. someone named lit_gal?

I haven't read the book so I can't offer an opinion either way.

An author in another fandom, BBM perhaps, took down a fanfic, changed a few details and published it as original. When it came out that the work was recycled fanfic, the reviewers (and judging from some of the reader comments on the reviewer's blog sites, the readers) were pissed that they'd been duped and fed recycled fanfic.

I dunno, but the fact that this author here is so adamant that her fic be kept away from everyone while she publishes original versions of it, leads me to believe that she doesn't want the reviewers (and readers) to find out. I wonder if the publisher would have bought those books if they'd known they were previously viewed fanfic.

*points*

Oh god. I so much agree with that. There's a reason I was never interesting in reading her fic... :P Also, I have little respect for people who recycle fanfic into "original" stories... Like, none at all. But that's just me. ;)

Lol, yes! Mastering Toby. I've not read it, exactly, but I do remember reading a RPS fic she wrote once called Educating Gale (or Teaching Gale? something like that, lol). I'm almost shocked at how little it seems she changed that one.

It sort of turned me off the idea after that. The idea of Brian/Justin great, the idea that their names could so easily just be renamed and suddenly they are different people makes me wonder if they even had the same personalities as their namesakes or were just
cardboard characters that were named Brian and Justin.

YES. THIS.

:D

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