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About Brian moving on and into a relationship with someone other than Justin reminded me of a WIP called:

The One Where Brian (or it could have been Justin) is with another guy and Justin (or it could have been Brian) wants him back - or something like that - it is known by it's initials.

It is written by someone who was a prolific and loved author early on in the fandom, but doesn't write now. The WIP was abandoned (*sigh!*) - maybe Myrna

Anyone remember this?

ETA: FOUND - link in comments - as well as a bit of debate, and insight into ABANDONED WIPs thanks to

galeandrandy. Note, this is an abandonEND ENON

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"...Brian shipping Justin off to college..."

Huh?

I was wondering if I'm thinking of the same story...I can be pretty clueless sometimes, LOL. Sooo, I was forced to go back over the story. DAMN, that is such a good story. Here is what I got from it:

"You ordered him to go to school in New York, he refused, you told him to get the fuck out of your life and never darken your doorstep again."

The famous Kinney's cliff. This is so Brian to me. But when I referred to the story being realistic, I was referring to Brian's antagonistic attitude toward the good doctor and or rather his personality. I thought it was a good portrayal in that aspect, but everyone sees Brian a little differently than the next person.:)

I also looked at part of ending again. I think or I rather hope that it hints at the future of the story:

"When Brian finally spoke, his voice was barely above a whisper. 'We're not finished yet, Justin,'"

I read the part you spoke of:

"Bull shit!" Brian said. "Bull fucking shit! After Ethan, all you had to say was 'Take me back,' and I did! That was it! And I never asked how I could trust you again, and I never wondered if it would happen again, and I never fucking looked back!"

Justin gave an inarticulate shout of utter frustration. "Until you kicked me out of my fucking home and tried to ship me out of the state!"

It seems that it was more a misunderstanding of Brian's intentions and Justin was feeling vulnerable or perhaps guilty about Ethan and it put him on the path to the doctor.

And then the very last paragraph spoke volumes to me:

"With nothing left to say, Brian grabbed the back of Justin's head and fiercely pressed his lips to Justin's. He shoved his tongue into Justin's mouth and figured if all else failed, maybe he'd get his message to sink in through fucking osmosis."

But I could wrong. I'm no authority. I only read this once and cried myself to sleep that night. It was worse than watching the last episode of QAF. It is only now that I can rationalize the story in order to past the fact it was never finished. :)

Edited 2012-06-16 16:38 (UTC)

It seems that it was more a misunderstanding of Brian's intentions and Justin was feeling vulnerable or perhaps guilty about Ethan and it put him on the path to the doctor.

Perhaps you should read it again, because I don't think this is quite what happens in Myrna's story. Brian is very deliberate and quite brutal in pushing Justin away, and Justin is very strong and determined in moving on with his life. There's certainly no guilt over Ethan involved at any stage.

I won't go into a dicussion about whether it's in character or not because I think there's a lot of personal interpretation and wishful thinking involved in issues of IC-ness. We tend to consider IC what we like to be IC.

But what I can say is that this is one of my absolute favourite stories in the fandom, one that I've re-read many times despite its being unfinished. In fact, its open-endedness (although I suppose in the last published chapter it's pretty clear where it's headed) makes it even more appealing for me.

Well, I'm glad that her characterization of Brian worked better for you than it did for me. :) In spite of my issues with how she wrote Brian (I agree with JLA below -- it was too brutal of a push away and especially at the time when he had JUST gotten back together with Justin and was *so* happy about that in canon) I still enjoyed the story and think Myrna is amazing.

I'm going to have to go back to read the full story again. I know I usually can be a little harsh with Brian because I don't think he treated Justin all that well at times in canon, so I try to stay open minded. I remember thinking one way about him when I was reading If You Needed Me and then I read another POV of/in the story.

I just finished reading over 400 pages of Randall's Deconstructing Brian (could not put it down), so I'm a little overdosed with QAF right now and need to clear my head, but I will definitely read this the fic in it's entirety again, tears be damned.

I will give my final analysis or my myopic opinion at a later date. :)

I don't think your vision is myopic, by the way. Myrna's Brian is brutal but so could be the canon one. In my opinion (and it's an entirely personal one) she writes him IC.

"When he finds himself falling in love with someone else, he realizes that time might not erase the presence of past love, but it certainly changes its quality."

OMG!!! Duh, I just realized you wrote one of my favorite stories...one of the ones I searched high and low for, lol. I thought that it was the best realistic Justin/other story I've read. I also loved that it was focused on Justin and not Brian.

Love that story!

Okay, gush over.:)

I have Phineas and Ferb blasting in my ear as my crazy kid jumps on my bed and sings at the top of his lungs while I contemplate how I can get away with justifiable homicide for both him and my husband who doesn't think we should put him in daycamp and I would be doing it on Father's Day without guilt, but I still managed to enjoy reading your story again.

Now, since Myrna's fic this is very passionately loved fic as all her stories are, I will be reading it again tonight. I will admit that I always thought her Brian to a bit of an...ahem, well, you know. It is one of the reasons I started searching for fics where Justin got fed up because I felt that way reading some of these stories.

But, ultimately, I feel that Myrna would always keep the two together. I'm going to read this fic again, once I can get some peace and quiet, to see if I feel this holds true for this fic for me, and to see if Brian seems to be as brutal as depicted

You're very kind, thank you.

The thing about Myrna is that she writes the strongest Justin out there, one that does not take Brian's shit lying down, not ever. And for a Justin fan like myself that's what matters most.

But don't be intimidated by fandom's general opinions: we like what we like and that's all there is to it.

You're welcome.

No,I'm not intimidated, just curious to see if I may have misinterpreted the story. I am a person who always forms her own opinion even if I'm standing all alone on the other side, but I also know that the older I get, the less I know, and I am not afraid to admitting to a mistake in judgement.

No, you all have just piqued my interest and I won't be able to let it rest until I get to the bottom of it.

And I love a strong Justin! I'm going to look for a tag for that.:)

OMFG!!!!

WTF was I reading before? I could not have read the whole story. I remember details but none of Brian’s ass-itude.

“Brian judged, noting with some satisfaction the lines around his brown eyes.”

"’Brian Kinney,’ Brian said, certain the introduction was unnecessary.

So vain, how did Justin ever put up with him?

“He'd met Craig Taylor at the funeral, finding him remote and barely tolerant of Justin, certainly unsympathetic to Justin's grief. Nightmares of the bashing had followed swiftly on the heels of the funeral and now, right when Justin was starting to gain some equilibrium, Brian Kinney bulldozes his way back onto the scene.”

What got me was that Brian gave no care to all Justin had gone through and focused instead on himself.

"’I thought...he'd get to school, make some friends, get into the classes. Realize I was right about everything.’

"’Then what?’ Michael said. ‘Beg you to let him come back?’"

"’No!’ Brian said. ‘That would have happened...naturally.’"

"’That is so fucked,’ Michael said.”

Brian was so smug that Justin would take any shit he threw at him and still take him back.

“Unsure how to explain to Justin that being with him was going to kill Brian, he managed to avoid Justin for another two days, but being a total chicken shit loser wasn't really his style, so he drove over to Justin's apartment after work on that second night, prepared to set the record straight.”

This was no gentle push off the Kinney cliff. This was a hard shove without a backward glance and a maniacal laugh to boot. I will continue to read the rest of the story, but after reading the the A/N:

“I really don't have anything mapped out for this story. I go back and forth trying to decide what I want to have happen, and I haven't really come to any conclusions.”

I have made my own conclusion that Justin would not have gone back to the creep. At least, that is what I would like to believe. There are just too many incidents where Brian had done some unbelievable things and in despicable ways. I mean, even the gang left Justin out of their lives. No wonder he didn’t call them when his mother died. But I can also see Justin wanting to cut all ties to Brian.

DAMN good story. Myrna did not paint Brian in a very positive light. That’s for sure.

Thanks for setting me straight. For some reason I remembered this being like the other story where Brian antagonizes Justin and his boyfriend until he goes back to him. This is nothing like that one. And now that I am re-reading this one, I’m going back to read If He Needed Me again. I’m beginning to wonder about myself, LOL.

LoL. I just didn't even know how to respond to your previous comments because... yeah. All the stuff you point out here. :)

DAMN good story. Myrna did not paint Brian in a very positive light. That’s for sure.

Co-signed. I don't see Brian as a saint who can do no wrong, but he's really not the smug arrogant asshole from this story. I'd read elsewhere that Myrna didn't like Brian and I didn't believe it... until I read this.

But after you read a few zillions stories, it's easy to start getting them mixed up.

I don't see Brian as a saint who can do no wrong, but he's really not the smug arrogant asshole from this story. I'd read elsewhere that Myrna didn't like Brian and I didn't believe it... until I read this.

YES, exactly. I'm actually in shock sitting here. If You Needed Me Brian felt very true to Brian. I started reading TOWJWAGABI to tag it and... I don't even know. I guess Brian really pissed her off somewhere between writing the fics. He was "smug arrogant asshole" to the point of complete stupidity, which is a bit too far to make sense for me.

But hey, we're finally getting an "anti-brian" tag.

Yay.

If any story deserves such a tag, it's this one. :|

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