ext_38914 ([identity profile] highd.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] getithere2010-06-26 12:10 pm

The Fandom Fund

This has been on my mind since Across the Pond needed donations a few months ago.

I have been thinking about starting a Fandom Fund. An organization that would be there with not only funds but information to help fans that run sites dedicated to their chosen fandom. I am thinking about using our fandom as a pilot program, then spreading out as people find out about the fund.

Over the last few years a few of the QAF fan fic sites have had to reach out to the fans for help to keep our archives alive. It's been awesome seeing us come together in this way. I was also thinking about other fandoms and if they had these issues sometimes, and that we all could benefit by having an organization to go for help. So I was wondering if anyone would be interested in helping with this project.

I don't think a lot of help will be needed at first, but let me be honest help is always good to have. Knowing it's a fandom effort would make it an even stronger force for help. I can generate the Pay Pal link myself and create the community, some graphic help would be great. I am concerned about some issues such as the law behind donations, taxes and how to distribute the money, even though I am just starting out with QAF donations philosophy needs to be taken seriously.

If someone is donating from the Buffy fandom do we make sure those funds go to specific Buffy projects? Do we do the same if someone from the QAF community donates? Or do I set up the fund to collect donations into a big pile and divvy it up as requests come in? Those two paths are very different, and I would want to get that question answered first.

I love Queer as Folk and it's fandom so much.  I also know that people in our fandom fan other things just as hard, if that is possible :)  If you would like to help or think that this is a good idea please comment here.

If you have suggestions or would like to contact me through PM feel free.

I would like to thank the mods of this site for allowing this post! Thanks guys.

[identity profile] lougenessis.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's a brilliant idea and when ok'd by the mods, I'd be happy to donate. I would never want this site or any others to not exist. I'll be watching to see the outcome.

[identity profile] kat-us.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Great idea! I could donate a pittance, but would be happy to help out with the comm if you like. (Sorry, but my graphics skills are limited to rudimentary icon making)

I think the easiest way to distribute the funds would be on a first come first served basis. Otherwise the logistics of trying to keep of the dollars for specific fandoms would be a nightmare.

Or you could have funds for QAF only and then bundle the other fandoms into a collective fund.

[identity profile] fraserette.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that is an awesome idea!!!

[identity profile] court1429.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what I typed to Red and Sid last night after Red directed us to the post in your LJ:

I understand [livejournal.com profile] highd's impulse, but I'm not sure it's very practical. I'm sure this is legal to do, but just to have any and all fandom members send cash to sit somewhere in an account for archive maintainers to request "grants" from just doesn't sound like a good plan, IMO. There'd have to be a lot of rules about how much could be requested and there should be more than one person determining who got the money. And it seems like there would be a lot of hassle tracking whether a person's donations were available to any fandom or just to her/his specific fandom(s).

But quite frankly, I have no interest in contributing to a fund that would keep a HP or Star Trek or Highlander or whatever archive or site active if it was going belly up. If the specific site is popular and frequently used, I'm sure there are general comms for that fandom where the word could be passed that funding help was needed. But it should be up to each fandom to make the effort to keep their own archives or graphics or other share sites up and running depending on their worth to that fandom.

I think there's nothing in the world wrong with archive owners going farther than just having a Paypal donate button on their site, and ask fandom directly to help foot those costs.

In fact, I think it's completely appropriate for fandom to help with hosting costs whether it's a fic archive or a personal hosting site. I can only think of three instances this past year, but they were all generously responded to. Especially in precarious financial times, if many people can chip in a little bit, it adds up to big help.

Look at what the QAF fandom accomplished:

1. Donated enough to keep Queer Eyes online for the next 8 or 9 years after the new maintainer lost her job (way to go, fandom!),

2. Donated enough to ATP to help them catch up on their back charges and pay for the year ahead, and

3. Helped fund [livejournal.com profile] qafmaniac's annual renewal costs for her share sites after she accepted a better, more fulfilling job, but at a lesser salary. Everyone is welcome to help themselves to Tita's graphics and videos, and she jumps in to make headers and icons for people at the drop of a hat, including the beautiful header gracing this community and our default icon.

[livejournal.com profile] getithere had a fairy godmother give this community a paid account last fall. I just extended it by one year last week. Someone else may gift us with another year at some point. And I mentioned to [livejournal.com profile] vlredreign and [livejournal.com profile] sidhe_arien the other day that if LJ ever offers permanent accounts for sale, I thought we should ask for donations to ensure this community is here as long as LJ exists. Last time around, permanent accounts were $150; I have no doubt we could find 30 members to kick in $5 in just a few hours! :)

All of this is fandom taking care of its own. I just think it should be by fandom for their fandom. JMO.

[identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the idea on the surface is a good idea. What I disagree with is one central donation fund. As we do here in QAF, if a site, such as ATP or Queer Eyes needs help, we step in and help. If an HP comm needed help, they'd post that at one of the HP comms, and I'd donate to that, because I also belong to that fandom.

Most people tend to belong to one fandom. They're not going to want to donate to a multi-fandom comm because then the dispersal of funds comes into question. If we're talking about a multi-fandom archive, such as Skyhawke, then that would be a totally separate issue. If people from the QAF fandom read fics there primarily, then they might feel inclined to donate to that site. So for now, I'd let the other fandoms and/or archives take care of themselves.

[identity profile] netlagd.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
hi,

while you don't want to go through the process of becoming a non-profit, and I'm not even sure you would qualify for a non-profit.

Regardless, I just want to comment on keeping funds separate.

In the non-profit world, if you take money for a specific cause it is known as a DIRECTED GIFT, and the money must be used for the cause the money was given for.

You may remember the Red Cross getting in trouble over donations given in the name of 911 that ended up funding a new phone system.

So while you are not a non-profit, there is an expectation by those who are giving money that the money will be used for their specific cause.

Regarding hosting issues, there are many hosting services that prohibit sexually explicit content.

Those that are willing to host sexually explicit content, often have a caveat regarding hosting. Here are some examples:
"Am I allowed to host adult content using Super Green Hosting?
Yes, as long as the material does not infringe on any copyright laws. "

"Do you allow adult sites?
Yes, we allow adult sites. They must be legal in the United States of America."

And here are some examples of hosting companies that do not allow "adult content":

"Prohibited Offerings. No Subscriber may utilize the Services to provide, sell or offer to sell the following: ... pornography, nudity, sexual products, programs or services; escort services or other content deemed adult related."